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Article #3751Re: I hope it passes
From: Bolwerk
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:17
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:17
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:59:33 -0500, Scott Hedrick wrote: > Amazingly enough, these are also the same people that pay a > disproportionally large share of taxes. The top 1% of earners pay 34% of > income taxes. Tax-breaks for the rich are *really* tax breaks for the tax > payers. Really? Does the money trickle down from the super-rich to everyone else too? How does that happen? Oh, I know. Sam Walton's daughter comes to work one day, opens her mail, and says, "Well, ah'll be dammed. I got me a big tax cut from the Federal govermment. Whatever will I do with it?" She's quickly reminded of her natural egalitarian inclinations when she sees the puppydog expression of George, the burly foreman at the factory she owns that makes those little seeds that can be planted in the ground to grow into big Wal-marts that poison the ground water to get rid of local competition. George reminds her that his workers all have a family to feed and make barely enough to feed, clothe, school, and buy movies and video games for their children, not to mention fill up their cars with gasoline to get them to church every Sunday. Naturally, Mrs. Walton decides to donate x percent of her 7-8 figure tax cut to making sure her workers make an extra 25 cents an hour. I don't know that 34% would be terribly backbreaking for the top 1%, considering they probably control way more than 34% of the personally-held wealth in the U.S., and perhaps control a lot more when you take into account all the wealth in the hands of limited liability corporations. That's not to mention all the money that these people control that probably isn't even considered taxable because it's kept overseas or whatever. Considering the manner of present economic growth, it looks like people are just losing their jobs, not getting money "trickling down" to them, and the people who are getting jobs are getting them at Walmart saying hello to those kind folk who walk in to buy a back massager because it's illegal to own a vibrating dildo in Dallas. Here are the numbers we need though before we can fairly draw any conclusions: (1) How much wealth is available to the top 1%? (2) How much of that wealth do they keep after taxes? (3) How much wealth is available to the bottom 99%? (4) How much of that wealth do they keep after taxes? Even those numbers would probably end up being rather misleading. The 1% of highest income earners, I believe, include people who make billions and people who make merely hundreds of thousands. And while $380,000 is a lot of money, I'm not sure it's enough to be considered independently wealthy. And if you want to look superficial property rights, you might want to consider how the top 1% makes their money. Do they depend on the labor of those in the bottom 99%? Or does it just magically appear?
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