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"Researcher" <Catwails@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 08:20:51 -0500, "Ken" <krp@atlantic.net> wrote:
> > I'm afraid you will never convince the little cowards of that, it
> > shatters their wall of denial and rationalization.

> That's my point entirely. America's involvement with Vietnam was wrong.
> American' did not know what they were doing, and when the media found out,
> AMerican's didn't like it one bit.
> But if you want to re-write history.

    Sure we knew. The media SPUN the war out of control.

> Lets talk about cowardice. Lets start with World War II?
> I don't recall American troops, nor America civillians runing to join the
> army and fight to save Europe.
> Why American's, so brave, were content to sit at home and let the
> autrocities happen.

    Rightly America wanted to stay out of a second European war. There was
no real reason we should have become involved, and didn't until Hitler
declared war on us. If he hadn't, we would never have been there atrocities
or not.

> While your Canadian brothers, came to the call from the start!

    That's because they HAD to. The Canadians at that time were part of
Great Britain.  They didn't get a vote.

> Gee, they way I see it you should be thanking your lucky stars that Japan
> bombed Perl Harbour, and scared your asses to do the right thing and join
> the war. Because if they didn't, Germany would have had nukes, and you
> wouldn't. They already had rockets, and were only months behind....so
> without Japan's bombing of America's Pearl Harbour, the cowardess of
America
> nearly ended the American way of life. You can't argue that you'd have
been
> under the nuke for hiding your head in the sand and cowering. It was only
> the peppy propaganda that the media churned out during the war effort hat
> gave AMerican's the backbone to fight a war that was morally just in the
> first place.

    Yes Hitler was a BAD boy.But it was not cowardice that kept America out
of the war in Europe, and it was only Hitler declaring war on  US that got
us IN.

> Gee, I don't recall the American's winning or drawing int he TET
> Offensive....or do you recall it it differently?

    Yes, VERY differently apparently.  Seems like the NVA had to RUN ( or
limp) back to the North and didn't keep an inch of ground. They also lost
several tens of thousands of their guys. As *I* recall it their determiend
effort to "take" Saigon FAILED miserably with 100% of their attacking force
being killed. Do YOU recall it differently? Do you recall the 1968 attack as
a HUGE victory for them and that they captured Saigon?

> Now, I am not here to slag American's, even though it is pretty easy to
do.

    Oh SURE you are, you are just doing a piss poor job of it.

> I am agaisnt terrorism. I thought the attack on the WTC was criminally
> insane and a orrible tragedy.  I do support American action against
terrorism.

    Good, then you won't mind if we keep on bombing the living shit out of
them?

> I will even put up with the hysteria, paranoia, and right wing rantings.
> I will tolerate the censorship and the propaganda.
> Why I will even allow a certain degree of meddling in our soveriegnty.
> All because of sensativity to the national tragedy of September 11th.

    Whose national soverignty?

> But, just because one imprisioned Canadan fruit cake is baiting, insulting
> and saying the most outlandish things About America and American's I am
not
> going to sit silent, while some stupid American's respond by baiting,
> insulting and saying the most outlandish things about Canada and
Canadians. I
> mean this is just stupid when most Canadians have AMerican relatives!
> We ain't a foreign country, we are blood family.

    Yes, I agree. MANY Canadians ACT like it a few don't.

> Fabrikant is just one of  our criminally insane. I mean what do you
> expect...he was born and raised in Communist Russia?
> His mind was ruined decade ago.
>
> Anyways, its not to hard to tell that  Roach is a Roach is a disease
> carrying, light fearing, shit eater, even if Dutch and with an M.D. to
boot!
> American's, thank God, are a highly educated society, and they are free
> enough to derail shit like McCathyism, once they figure out what is really
> going on! So unlike you, who thinks the American people are too dumb, I
> think they are smart enough to figure out what is what. But I do undertand
> emotions have to subside before thinking takes place.
> That is why I am being tolerant, and saving both barrels for Fabrikant!

 Good.