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" Fabrikant" <fabrikant@archambault.jail.qc.ca> wrote in message
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> On paper, the situation could not be better.  The law says that the
> Correctional Service Canada (CSC) has an obligation to "act fairly".  This
> in general means, that prisoner's request can not be denied, unless there
is
> a good reason to do so, and in this case, CSC is obliged to explain the
> reason in writing to the prisoner. In addition, the law specifically says,
> that it is forbidden to mistreat a prisoner, who makes complaints.  More
> than that, jailers can not even mention in any of the documents the fact
> that a prisoner makes complaints.  In reality, this hypocritical country
has
> never lived up to its beautiful laws.
>


Boy are you confused!
The law is one governing the process for inmates to make grievances and
complaints.
The law deals with the process, the frame work in which inmate complaints
will be dealt.
Any prisoner request can be denied for any reason, and once it is put in
writing, the grevience has been resolved.

The process is fair, only that you can make a greivence, it will be heard,
you will receive a decision in writing, and if you don't like that decision,
you can take it to a higher level. But if you have been given a reason in
writing that is acceptable to the person above them in the chain of
authority, they have no further obligation to respond further as the issue
is deemed resolved.
The request, complaint, grievanc.....was denied. That is perfectly valid, as
long as you are told why.

Gee, that gives jailers something called discretion....doesn't it?

Mistreat a prisoner....well I guarantee that your definition of mistreatment
is NOT the definition of mistreatment of a prison.
Nothing says anybody has to be nice to you, and even those that will give ou
the benefit of the doubt, soon discover that you are a pain in their ass,
very abrassive, nasty. So obviously you become a receptical for all their,
frustration...more than your fair share, but way less than you ask for by
the way you interact with people. What is fair about killing innocent
people. How many peple died that could never give you tenure is they wanted?
What was fair about that?


> When I came to the system in 1993, the time limits for complaint
> adjudication were one week for urgent complaint and 3 weeks for regular
> complaints. Complaint is considered urgent, if it is related to health
care,
> involuntary transfer or detention.  After the scandal at the Kingston
prison
> for women, judge Arbour made a recommendation, that CSC should respect the
> time limits for complaint adjudication.  Jailers decided, instead of
> respecting the existing time limits, they extended those time limits: now
> urgent complaint has the time limit of 3 weeks, while regular complaint is
> to be answered in 5 weeks.  If you think, that jailers now respect the
time
> limits, think again. By the way, Provincial jailers respond to a complaint
> in 24 hours, second level - in 48 hours, and the third level in 72 hours.
> This does not mean, that those responses are fair, but at least they are
> fair.
>

Apples and oranges. The people in the Provincial sytem are out of there in 2
years less a day.....max, so time is of the essence....people in the Federal
system are there for 2 years to until they are dead....so there is lots of
time. Besides, people don't want to process complaints faster because that
would cost more money. Its fairer to the victims of crime to just extend the
process to match the resources available.



> I have made a quite extensive research on this subject. I have filed well
> over 500 complaints on every imaginable subject.  I was curious to see how
> inmate complains are being treated.  I have discovered, that whatever rule
> can be violated, is violated, and a prisoner can not get redress at any
> level, even when he is 150% right. I give below some examples of my
> complaints and the way they were treated.
>

Don't you think making 500 complaints wuld label you a frivolous time
waster, wo was more concerned with bogging the syste down than making any
legitamte grievence? The law does not give you a right to redress just a
right to address. You can be right, and if you are told why not, then you
did receive the only thing you are entitled....an answer, not an action or
resolution.
WHat is so difficult to understand about that.....it is perfectly clear in
the legislation.


> The general rules are as follows.  If a prisoner is mistreated, he can
write
> a complaint, which is to be responded within 5 weeks by a jail manager. If
> the inmate is not satisfied with the response, he can write a. grievance
to
> Level One, which has to be answered by the warden.  If the inmate is not
> satisfied with the warden's response, he can write a grievance to Level
Two,
> which is responded by the Provincial Commissioner, and finally, Level
Three
> grievance is adjudicated at the National Headquarters in Ottawa.  After
> that, inmate can write to the Correctional Investigator, who acts as an
> independent ombudsman. So, on paper, everything is fine, but the reality
is
> something else.
>

No, that is not the procedure....why don't we look at it?

http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/plcy/cdshtm/081-cde.shtml

> Example one. Several years ago, I needed to send a letter to US, and I
wrote
> an authorization to deduct $0.52 postage from my account. True to their
> habit of stealing from prisoners, jailers have deducted $0.90, which at
that
> time was a regular postage overseas.  It escapes me, why would they need
to
> steal $0.32 with their average $50,000 salary - these people are
> pathological thieves.
>
> First, I thought that it was an honest mistake and tried to settle the
> matter, to no avail.  So, I decided to make an experiment: to see, how
> jailers would defend this seemingly indefensible theft.  They could not
say
> that my letter was heavier than usual, since the rate of $0.90 to US at
that
> time just did not exist.  I have lost at all levels.  The response was:
> postal rates are established by Canada Post, and jailers have no power to
> change them.
>

You can say $0.90 to the USA was never a rate, but since you don't provide
the weight of your letter, which would have established it was over weight,
I say you are full of shit. I know for a fact that my mailroom sent many
overweight envelopes through our postal meter at $0.90 in the early to late
1990's....I think it crept up to $0.93.

Now, you makea complaint that yu were overcharged postage on your overweight
letter sent to the USA.
You received your response, the rate charged by Canada post for your letter
was $0.90, not $0.52 as you had imagined. Further it was explained that the
rate for postage is established by Canada Post and not Canada Corrections.

Listen, you may have a PH.D. and all that, but the reason you didn't get
tenure is your almost fine mind is seriously flawed.
You claim that the rate was $0.52, and that the evil Jailers deducted $0.90
fom your account, posted our letter for $0.52 and stole $0.32. And you can't
understand why someone earning 50k+ a year would need to steal pennies from
prisoners.

Okay, but I guarantee you that I am way more amazed as to what happened to
the other $0.06. I guess you spent it on th bullshit eh? Or you mind really
has rotted in that hole!


> This is what jailers typically do: a prisoner writes about a certain
> violation, and jailers respond about something else.  The purpose is
> obvious: to make prisoners angry, so that they would commit another crime
> after their liberation and come right back.  Though the system is called
> "correctional", the last thing jailers want is "correction" of inmates.
> Their worst nightmare: there is no more crime - they will all lose their
> jobs.
>

Yeah, well at least the won't have convict records when they need to look
for work.
Who told you that prison rehabilitates....it rehabilitates socety from the
damage inmates have done.
Every psycologist can tell you that prison hardens criminals....makes them
more criminal in thought and action, and few ever overcome. This is the main
reason why we won't put children into a prison...no matter how aweful the
crime, because once in prison, they are lost to rehabilitation. That is why
we only put children who murder away for 2 years max, so they don't enter
the prison system. Are they putting hallucinagens in your beverages? You
know one of those try out those new drugs on the lifers without their
consent or knowledge?


> Since I was so obviously right, I have decided to check out the
objectivity
> of Correctional Investigator Stewart and sent my complaint to him.
Stewart
> has responded that he agreed with the response given by CSC.  My attempt
to
> question his employees as to why CSC was right was unsuccessful: Stewart
> ordered his employees not to talk to me.  Why?  Because his position is
> impossible to defend in a face-to-face conversation, while he can put
> anything on paper.  I am the only prisoner in Canada, with who Stewart
> refuses to speak, though this is what he is paid for.
>

Sorry, according to the procedures you received your response in accordance
and no further action is required.
Read the procedures.....its all in there, only this time read what is in
there, and not what you want it  to say.


> Yet another subject of inmate complaints - guards' misbehaviour. I
reproduce
> below the typical response:
>
> "After verification, we were informed that Mrs. Lafontaine, Correctional
> Officer, works with professionalism and applies institutional rules.  The
> Correctional Service of Canada staff has been trained to intervene
> judicially with inmates.  When institutional authorities note that an
> employee had an inadequate behaviour towards an inmate, corrective
measures
> are taken to ensure a just and fair treatment to inmates."
>

Yes, you were harrassing Mrs. Lafontaine, and she had to put you into line,
likely with professional use of her baton.
The force was in accorance with the incident. She is professionally trained,
and you are not. Besides, hey don't need you to tell them when a gaurd has
gone too far...they will know long before you do that forc was excessive,
and when it is, the gaurd will be told to tone it down a notch.....these are
people not wild beasts....we are told.

> Can you get from this response, what was I complaining about?  Of course,
my
> complaint was denied.  Here is yet another quote:
>
> "All employees of the Correctional Service of Canada are subjected to a
very
> strict code of discipline.  If institutional authorities note that a staff
> member has an inadequate behaviour, corrective measures are taken in order
> to ensure a fair and equal treatment to all inmates"
>

Yes, if they are going o beat an inmate they have to beat him the same as
other inmates they beat. Get the idea, fair and equal.
And I mean before they beat you, they consult with your doctor to make sure
it won't kill you....now that is just so thoughtful nd very respectful!

> The cliche is clear.  Whatever an inmate is complaining about, the typical
> response is: "A thorough investigation has been done, no evidence
supporting
> the allegations was found." There is no specific discussion of the
> allegations.  In the case of an inmate complaining on bodily harm, the
> typical response - the inmate did it to himself. In the case of an
internal
> injury, which inmate can not do to himself, jailers have dishonest
doctors,
> ready to cover-up for them.
>




> Guard Amyot has deliberately broken my ribs in Donnacona jail in 1994. I
was
> brought to the hospital (St-Francois d'Assise) and there radiologist
Legare
> was happy to oblige: I was informed that no ribs were broken. It took me
> several years to get a documental confirmation that she lied. I field a
> lawsuit for $10 million, and I am sure that I shall never win a penny.
> Corrupt Canadian judges will never find me right and jailers wrong.
>

Well you won't win. I broke my own rib. I mean I didn't realize I broke
it....lets just say I hurt it.
I had x-rays done and they revealed nothing. The pain continued, and seemed
to get worse after about a month.
I went back to my doctor who had me go for an imaging scan, which reveal
that I had broken my rib, but by the time I had the test all that was
visible was the repair.

Besides, don't be an absolute idiot, there is nothing any doctor can do for
a broken rib, except confirm it and tell you to take it easy. Something that
the pain andcmmon sense already tell you. It won't be because of corruption
hat you won't win, it will be because you don't even have a case. What harm
or suffering was caused by the doctor not finding a break? What
opportunities did you lose out on? How much money did you lose? The fact is
that you suffered no damages, no loses, no additional pain or suffering for
what you claim was an improper diagnosis.


> I did not win even 1% of my complaint, nevertheless jailers for some
reasons
> seem to be very upset with my complaints and are using their informants to
> intimidate me, to harass me.  Some people ask me, why am I filing all
these
> complaints and lawsuits, if I know that I would never win?  The answer is
> very simple: losing in court, when I am 100% right, is my victory, because
> my purpose is to show that there is no respect for the law in this
country,
> that an ordinary person gets always screwed up by the rich and powerful,
> with the help of corrupt judges, and in such a lawless society, one has
the
> right to defend himself, with deadly force, if necessary.
>

Well how popular d you think you'd be, sitting down writing 500 bogus
complaints, all of which create work for those people.
I mean its not like you are a complete stranger....you are a known idiot,
troublemaking, timewaster.

You are being treated like any person that makes it their mission in life to
be an asshole, a pain in the ass. But its mostly that you are not a likeable
person. And since you are not likeable and impose yourself, people begin to
resent and hate you.
Like your jailers hate you, and prove it, by doing the barest minimum,
taking their time like molassas, and looking for every opportunity to shove
it up your ass.

But that is just because of your personality and the manner in which you
treat those around you....like shooting them down deadin an infintile
tantrum. And you still haven't learned....likable people get what they
deserve and unlikeable peopl get nothing....not even what they are supposed
to get!

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