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Article #3900PRISON TACTICS A LONGTIME DILEMMA FOR ISRAEL
From: ComeInPeace
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:16
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:16
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44664-2004Jun15.html NABLUS, WEST BANK - The accounts of physical abuse of Iraqis by American guards at Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad sounded achingly familiar to Anan Labadeh. The casual beatings, the humiliations, the trophy photos taken by both male and female guards were experiences he said he underwent as a Palestinian security detainee at an Israeli military camp in March of last year. There was, he added, a significant difference: The Israelis have rules, he said, and their techniques for breaking down prisoners are far more sophisticated. "What the Israelis do is much more effective than beatings," he said. "Three days without food and without sleep and you're eager to tell them anything. It just shows us the Americans are amateurs. They should have taken lessons from the Israelis." Many of the questions raised by the Abu Ghraib scandal, and by the United States's self-declared war on terrorism, are the kinds that Israel has been wrestling with for decades. Where is the line in a democracy between coercion and torture? What kinds of interrogation techniques are morally acceptable when dealing with a suspect who may have knowledge of a "ticking bomb" -- an imminent attack? And what about the damage those techniques inflict on relations between an occupying power and its subjects? "Unfortunately, when you're fighting a war against terror there are many difficult issues you face every day," said a senior Israeli government lawyer who defended Israel's policy on interrogating suspects. "Maybe the United States is beginning to discover what Israel has had to deal with for a long time." Although its officials never use the word "torture," Israel is perhaps the only Western-style democracy that has acknowledged sanctioning mistreatment of prisoners in interrogation. In 1987, following a long debate in legal and security circles, a state commission established a set of secret guidelines for interrogators using what the panel called "moderate physical and psychological pressure" against detainees. In 1999, Israel's Supreme Court struck down those guidelines, ruling that torture was illegal under any circumstances.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103916,a64f537e9d75bd6e,start X-Google-Thread: 1042ac,84169ba41cb65003,start X-Google-Thread: 1098dc,7630fd0a5735b0b6,start X-Google-Thread: fb1cb,12e3e2ed3f3b4b18,start X-Google-Thread: 109097,6ceaf223379da8d2,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,gid1042ac,gid1098dc,gidfb1cb,gid109097,public Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews2.google.com!not-for-mail From: Jimmy_Ray@hotmail.com (ComeInPeace) Newsgroups: tx.general,soc.culture.usa,miami.general,seattle.general,houston.general Subject: PRISON TACTICS A LONGTIME DILEMMA FOR ISRAEL Date: 16 Jun 2004 20:16:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 38 Message-ID: <5b699bbc.0406161916.5c9edeaf@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.14.94.38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1087442208 23573 127.0.0.1 (17 Jun 2004 03:16:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:16:48 +0000 (UTC)