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"vonroach" <hadrainc@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 07:48:18 -0700, "Mr. N"
> <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Not beyond being aware of his existence and role in tutoring
> Alexander.  His ideas have all been discarded. If you find ancient
> Greek superstitions amusing, then you might be amused.

That's the nature of studying things.  Christian superstitions are fun to
study, too - even those that have been discarded.

> >You seem to be under the rather bizarre impression that study of
Aristotle
> >prohibits one from studing others.  Why is that?  Are you some kind of
> >mental defective?
>
> Ignoring the insult which is standard for the left wing,

Am I a member of "the left wing"?  How so?

And as to insults - your comment provokes nothing but laughter.  We all know
what great advocates for respect and propriety right-wingers are (not).

> I find `study' of Aristotle as anything but an example of bizarre science
> that one finds without the scientific method, a total waste of time.

I guess you've studied Aristotle then, or you wouldn't have formed this
opinion.

See how that works?

> >I do actually know what socialism is - it's you who do not.  That's why
you
> >keep refusing to provide a definition - you know how stupid you'll make
> >yourself look, which at this point shouldn't be too difficult.
>
> I have defined my views in detail.

No, you haven't.

> You have not.

So why do you accuse me of being a member of "the left wing"?

> Your view of `socialism' is probably as divorced from reality as
Aristotle's teachings.

Really?  Why do you say that?

What is YOUR view/definition of 'socialism'?  In spite of what you said
above - you have NOT answered that question.

> >Please identify where I ever advocated socialism as a positive
socioeconomic
> >system.  I'll wait.

You skipping this question are you?

> >What remarks are those?  I'm still waiting for you to provide a
definition
> >of the term.

And this one?

> >Can you?  WARNING:  once you do so, you'll be obligated to quit using it
the
> >way that you have been, you fucking moron.
> >
> Do you punctuate your everyday conversation with profanity?

Sometimes, yes.  Why do you ask?

>I have noted this habit is common in left wingers.

It's a common habit among a great many grownups - including the current set
of RIGHT-wingers in the White House, and people in the military.  My
penchant for profanity was fostered by my own active duty military service.
So what?

> >So far you and your ilk tend to apply it to anyone who is opposed to the
> >foreign policies of George W. Bush.  That's not just bizarre - it's
> >psychotic.
>
> Another insult

Not an 'insult' - a fact.  You're still not defining the very terms you so
love to use.

> by a Bush hating neo-democrat socialist.

There you go again.  You don't even know what the word "socialist" means,
nor have you described how the term (even YOUR definition of it) applies to
ME.  You continue to refuse to because you are a coward and a fool.

> You obviously are a fan of a collectivist society run by a big taxing
bureaucratic government.

If it's so "obvious" then you should have no problem pointing out what I
have said that leads you to this conclusion.

Lots of time here.  I'll wait.  This should be fun.

>I prefer individual freedom, individual responsibility, and individual
opportunity.

That all sounds good to me.

> A society of self-reliant individuals.

In a competitive capitalist economy, there will be some who cannot compete -
this is reality.  Disabled, elderly and infirm; children.  You recognize
this, right?

-- 
-Mr. N
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"President Bush said in his speech Monday night that the war in Iraq is "the
central front in the war on terror." It's not the central front in the war
on terror, but it has unfortunately become the central recruiting office for
terrorists. [Dick Cheney said, "This war may last the rest of our lives.]
The unpleasant truth is that President Bush's utter incompetence has made
the world a far more dangerous place and dramatically increased the threat
of terrorism against the United States. "
-Former Vice-President Al Gore, speech at New York Univeristy, May 26, 2004