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Article #3989Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice
From: bill
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:32
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:32
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:38:00 -0700, "phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> One strange thing about illegal entry to this country is that our >> government is aggresive in deporting people from Haiti, Cuba, China and >> other countries who come here as " economic " refugees ... because they >> want to make more money and improve their lives. Unless they can prove >> they are in danger of being killed and / or imprisoned for political >> activities are they allowed to stay. Otherwise they are summarily sent >home. >> >> But Mexicans are welcomed with open arms when they come " to seek a >> better life and feed their familes". The government is even negotiating >> with Mexico to arrange unlimited numbers to come here for economic >reasons. > >Both theirs and ours, as luck would have it. > >Any person of any nationality is turned back when they're caught, even >Mexicans. Not true. Many social programs in many states do not report illegals when they find them. Why do you think there are so many illegals in our schools and hospitals? > >The fundamental truth is that not all are caught while entering illegally. >Most are not even caught during 'sweeps' conducted by the INS. In simple >truth, unless you fervently desire to turn ths country into a police state, >there is no way to send home every illegal presently here. Hiring several >million more 'Immi' troops would just be the tip of the iceberg. They'd >need an entirely new infrastructure to support them. That is partially true. However, if the illegals weren't hidden by those who want to exploit them for cheap labor, they'd have little reason for coming here illegally. > >Since profiling is illegal, every single person in this country must be >forced to prove their right to be here. How many here could do that? >Remember all you've said about how easy it is to forge documents? Many >would find themselves returning to the old country because they lack hard >evidence of their legal status here > >Remember also that while Mexico is our border neighbor, it's claimed that >only about half our illegals are Mexican nationals. The other half come >from nearly every country in the world. Do you want them deported along >with Mexicans, or are they OK if they're white? > >Forget the onion pickers, illegals are to be found at all levels of our >society, and in nearly every field of endeavor. Pretending the magic >round-up will not cripple our economy is mere childish whistling in the >dark. You need to stop and really think that through. Among the supposed >12 million are many key personnel, whether you like it or not. > >Pretending that our unemployed can and will fill all jobs vacated is simply >ludicrous. You might get some welfare titters off their asses if you pay >them $25/hr, but who's going to train them - assuming falsely they can all >be trained, that is? Many need weeks of training on how to even show up for >work every day - that's truth and you know it. > >Back to the basics - Supply & Demand allows illegals to come here and >flourish. If there were no room for them they wouldn't be here. Your >federal gummint recognizes such basic reality even if you lot do not. It's >a win/win situation for both Mexico and the US, discounting the personal >rage felt by some of our scummiest citizens who simply hate Mexicans. It seems that yiou are saying here that the Federal Government somehow encourages illegals. It also seems that you are saying that those who want to see illegal immigration halted simply hate Mexicans. Is this really waht you want to say? > >If you're going to wave the flag and spout jingoistic and chauvinistic >rhetoric, be ready to address every aspect implied by your recommendations; >tell how much personal freedom you're willing to give up, tell how much more >staggering taxes you're willing to pay, tell how you'll implement the >'sweep', tell SPECIFICALLY how you'll fill all vacated jobs, tell how many >troops it'll take to seal all borders tight, tell how robbing our citizenry >to meet the manpower needs will strengthen our nation, tell how many of us >will NOT be engaged full-time in your ethnic cleansing, tell what the >deported Mexicans will eat when they're returned to unemployment and poverty >in Mexico, etc., etc., etc. > > > -- Bill Replace "g" with "a" Experience is what you get when you expected something else.
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