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Re: 'Closing the border

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From: Mike Smith
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:40
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:39:11 GMT, az-willie <sclaus@npole.com> wrote:

>Mike Smith wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 02:57:48 GMT, Frank Matthews
>><MATTHEWS@MATH.CL.UH.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Look folks the concept of closing the border is a fantasy.  While it 
>>>would help the steel mills can you imagine stringing barbed wire in our 
>>>National Parks?  And how much are you willing to raise taxes to pay the 
>>>couple of million federal workers needed to patrol?
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>Ummmmm... Protecting our Nation's borders is a function of the federal
>>government. Are you attempting to state that the feds should abandon
>>one of their constitutionally mandated  functions? And where did you
>>get that fantasy about stringing barbed wire?
>>  
>>
>>>If you want control of illegal immigration you are going to have to get 
>>>control of the jobs.  If the CEOs & CFOs of corporations were spending 
>>>time in the slammer for conspiracy to get illegals hired by their 
>>>contractors you might see some improvement.  Unless anyone hiring an 
>>>illegal is at at least as much risk of time in the slammer as a drug 
>>>dealer you will have folks coming across.  They aren't to blame the fat 
>>>cats getting them for cheap workers are the cause.
>>>
>>>Frank Matthews
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>You just don't know a whole lot about big business, do you. 
>>
>>Anyone intentionally hiring an illegal is subject to a fine from the
>>INS. Anyone hiring anyone must fill out an I-9 form, verifying that
>>person's employability, along with photocopies of the I-9 required
>>info.
>>
>>We don't need more laws and restrictions; we need to enforce the laws
>>already on the books.
>>
>>Mike Smith
>>  
>>
>===========
>The problem is that the required papers are so easily forged. The 
>government goes to great effort to issue money that is very difficult to 
>counterfeit, but puts out Social Security cards that can be forged by a 
>10 year old.

Yea, I wonder why that is................ And they have directly
refused to let me in on the "secret".
>
>Illegals only get caught because of phony papers when they use a Social 
>Security number in use by someone else and the IRS happens to notice, 
>somehow, that the person apparently has two jobs ... one in Portsmouth, 
>Maine and another in Phoenix, Arizona. Once in a rare while they decide 
>to figure out how that person can be in two places at the same time.

In order to get a driver's license or receive non-emergency medical
treatment or receive hand-outs of food or clothing from the
government, there should be a verification that the recipient is a US
citizen. With the current technology, there should be an easy call-in
or log-in to verify eligibility for work. It's being done for gun
purchases, why not citizenship?

I guarantee we check each employee's background for criminal
convictions and we drug check each employee before we hire them.

Mike Smith
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From: Mike Smith <mws@wt.net>
Newsgroups: tx.general,az.general,houston.general,soc.culture.usa,neworleans.general
Subject: Re: 'Closing the border
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 05:40:11 -0600
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