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Article #3998Re: 'Closing the border
From: Mike Smith
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:40
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:40
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:39:11 GMT, az-willie <sclaus@npole.com> wrote: >Mike Smith wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 02:57:48 GMT, Frank Matthews >><MATTHEWS@MATH.CL.UH.EDU> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Look folks the concept of closing the border is a fantasy. While it >>>would help the steel mills can you imagine stringing barbed wire in our >>>National Parks? And how much are you willing to raise taxes to pay the >>>couple of million federal workers needed to patrol? >>> >>> >> >>Ummmmm... Protecting our Nation's borders is a function of the federal >>government. Are you attempting to state that the feds should abandon >>one of their constitutionally mandated functions? And where did you >>get that fantasy about stringing barbed wire? >> >> >>>If you want control of illegal immigration you are going to have to get >>>control of the jobs. If the CEOs & CFOs of corporations were spending >>>time in the slammer for conspiracy to get illegals hired by their >>>contractors you might see some improvement. Unless anyone hiring an >>>illegal is at at least as much risk of time in the slammer as a drug >>>dealer you will have folks coming across. They aren't to blame the fat >>>cats getting them for cheap workers are the cause. >>> >>>Frank Matthews >>> >>> >> >>You just don't know a whole lot about big business, do you. >> >>Anyone intentionally hiring an illegal is subject to a fine from the >>INS. Anyone hiring anyone must fill out an I-9 form, verifying that >>person's employability, along with photocopies of the I-9 required >>info. >> >>We don't need more laws and restrictions; we need to enforce the laws >>already on the books. >> >>Mike Smith >> >> >=========== >The problem is that the required papers are so easily forged. The >government goes to great effort to issue money that is very difficult to >counterfeit, but puts out Social Security cards that can be forged by a >10 year old. Yea, I wonder why that is................ And they have directly refused to let me in on the "secret". > >Illegals only get caught because of phony papers when they use a Social >Security number in use by someone else and the IRS happens to notice, >somehow, that the person apparently has two jobs ... one in Portsmouth, >Maine and another in Phoenix, Arizona. Once in a rare while they decide >to figure out how that person can be in two places at the same time. In order to get a driver's license or receive non-emergency medical treatment or receive hand-outs of food or clothing from the government, there should be a verification that the recipient is a US citizen. With the current technology, there should be an easy call-in or log-in to verify eligibility for work. It's being done for gun purchases, why not citizenship? I guarantee we check each employee's background for criminal convictions and we drug check each employee before we hire them. Mike Smith
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