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Article #4010Re: 'Closing the border
From: Jerry Leslie
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:59
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:59
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Frank Matthews (MATTHEWS@MATH.CL.UH.EDU) wrote:
: Look folks the concept of closing the border is a fantasy. While it
: would help the steel mills can you imagine stringing barbed wire in our
: National Parks? And how much are you willing to raise taxes to pay the
: couple of million federal workers needed to patrol?
:
: If you want control of illegal immigration you are going to have to get
: control of the jobs. If the CEOs & CFOs of corporations were spending
: time in the slammer for conspiracy to get illegals hired by their
: contractors you might see some improvement. Unless anyone hiring an
: illegal is at at least as much risk of time in the slammer as a drug
: dealer you will have folks coming across. They aren't to blame the fat
: cats getting them for cheap workers are the cause.
:
The courts still provide an avenue for justice...
http://www.fairus.org/html/07413209.htm
FAIR Press Release - Ninth Circuit Court Hands Important Legal
Victory to American Workers Under RICO Statute
"Appeals Panel Rules That Citizens and Legal Immigrants Can Claim Injury
Resulting from Employment of Illegal Aliens
(Washington, D.C. September 4, 2002) In a landmark decision, aptly
handed down the day after Labor Day, a three-judge panel of the 9th
Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that workers could claim damages under
the RICO (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization) statute
against employers who knowingly and systematically engage in hiring
illegal aliens. The 9th Circuit ruling was made in a case brought in
March 2000 by legal aliens against Zirkle Fruit and Matson Fruit, two
Washington State packing companies.
The ruling, coming on the heels of a 2001 decision by the 2nd Circuit
in favor of a cleaning company that claimed injury because a
competitor systematically employed illegal workers, opens the door for
workers to seek legal redress for loss of jobs and wages due to the
practice of employment of illegal aliens. The judges overruled a lower
court decision that found the workers' claims of damage to be too
speculative. In their decision, the 9th Circuit panel agreed with the
plaintiffs that their injuries, resulting from the defendants' knowing
employment of illegal aliens, were "direct, a crucial technical
element of proving causation under RICO."
The appellate judges went on to state in unequivocal language, "We are
unable to discern a more direct victim of illegal conduct" than the
workers who brought the suit against the fruit packers. The 9th
Circuit ruled emphatically that workers who suffer job and wage loss
as a result of the employment of illegal aliens have legal standing to
sue employers under RICO. "The workers must be allowed to make their
case through presentation of evidence," stated the decision..."
--Jerry Leslie (my opinions are strictly my own)
Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email
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