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Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice

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From: Lets Roll
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:03
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"Wotan" <wotan@DeathPenguin.com> wrote in message
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> As part of a Turing test
> phxbrd <phxbrd@earthlink.net> posted:
>
> >
> >"Wotan" <wotan@DeathPenguin.com> wrote in message
> >news:ate973$pe7$5@reader1.panix.com...
> >> As part of a Turing test
> >> Bill  <libertas@bellsouth.net> posted:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:11:46 -0000, "Nick"
> >> ><allstarmercedesparts@jenin.ps> favored us with:
> >> >
> >> >> > > In response, Simcox said he was forming a citizen's militia to
> >patrol
> >> >> > > vast expanses of Arizona's border with Mexico, in an effort to
stem
> >> >> > > the flow of illegal immigrants, drugs and potential terrorists -
> >all
> >> >> > > of which are doing damage to Arizona specifically and the nation
in
> >> >> > > general.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why do you people moan about the Mexicans? They prop up your wobbly
> >economy,
> >> >> who else do you think will work in the meatpacking industry or pick
> >fruit
> >> >> and veg?
> >> >
> >> >Not only that, but who will smuggle in the drugs?  Who will see to it
> >> >that the hospitals near the border are more-than-fully utilized at
> >> >taxpayer expense?  Who will . . . never mind.
> >>
> >> Who will destroy millions of dollars of private property every year?
> >
> >Yeah, those damned impoverished workers and their 400 hp hi-riders
tearing
> >down mile after mile of bob war fince jes gotta be stopped....
>
> Well, they might not be on hi-riders; but the crossers do tear down
> fences, destroy property, STEAL from land owners (yes, including water),
> and make people feel unsecure in their own homes.
>
> BTW, you are aware that the desert is a fraile environment, and have a few
> million people walk through the same spot isn't good for it, right?
>
> >One broke a lock on a water faucet last year, too....
>
> In one case, the rancher said the broken valve probably cost him about $5k
> in lost water, damage to the tank, and repairs to the tank supports that
> were washed out.
>
>
> --
> Famous last words:

http://www.desertinvasion.us/reports/reports.html

The Immigration and Naturalization Service through the U.S. Border Patrol,
the U.S. Department of the Interior, the U.S. Forest Service and the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency have prepared this report in response to
requests by the House Committee on Appropriations to develop a coordinated
plan to mitigate the environmental damage caused by illegal immigrant
crossings through Federal lands in southeast Arizona and to report back to
the Committee by October 1, 2001. This report is being submitted late due to
the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and the resulting need to review
border issues with respect to homeland security. The coordinated plan for
southeast Arizona is incorporated in this report as Appendix B.

The purpose of this report is to identify resources and actions necessary to
mitigate and prevent environmental damage caused by illegal immigration
through Federal lands in southeast Arizona and to restore safe public use
and management of these lands through a multi-agency, coordinated effort.
The detailed goals, objectives, and actions are stated in Appendix B. It
does not address the social, economic or political factors that may be
causing illegal immigration, the impacts on non-Federal jurisdictions
(although most impacts are similar); and many other issues related to
illegal immigration.

Southeast Arizona, as described in this report, has a total area of
approximately 14,000 square miles (9 million acres). Approximately 37% of
this area is administered by the Federal government and is the subject of
this report. Southeast Arizona has 156 miles of border common with Mexico.
This represents only 8% of the entire 1,952 miles of international border
between the United States and Mexico. However, the environmental and other
impacts caused by undocumented aliens crossing Federal lands in southeast
Arizona are much greater than this small percentage indicates.

Certain Federal lands in southeast Arizona can no longer be used safely by
the
public or Federal employees due to the significance of smuggling
undocumented aliens and controlled substances into the United States. The
mere number of undocumented aliens traveling in the border area intimidates
legitimate visitors and creates a reluctancy by some of the public to use
public lands. The volume of undocumented aliens also impacts Federal and
other government employees' ability to feel safe while doing their job in
the field. Staff exposure while conducting resource management activities in
certain areas along the border is a serious safety concern. Ranchers,
farmers, miners and other legitimate users of Federal lands are heavily
impacted financially by smuggling operations that cut fences, breakdown or
leave gates open, damage water supplies, steal or damage equipment, and
disrupt grazing and irrigation schedules.

Breaking and entering and burglaries along the border are common and include
historic and government structures, employee and private residences, and
businesses.

Literally hundreds, if not thousands of new trails and roads have been
created on Federal lands in southeastern Arizona by undocumented alien
crossings. This proliferation of trails and roads damages and destroys
cactus and other sensitive vegetation, disrupts or prohibits revegetation,
disturbs wildlife and their cover and travel routes, causes soil compaction
and erosion, impacts stream bank stability, and often times confuses
legitimate users of trails and roads on Federal lands.

Large numbers of vehicles are abandoned by smugglers and undocumented
aliens. Such vehicles are difficult and costly for agencies to remove.

The character of Congressionally designated wilderness areas has been
reduced by the creation of unwanted trails and roads, damage to existing
trails, and large amounts of trash. Encounters with large groups of
undocumented aliens reduces the quality of the wilderness experience for
many visitors. Law enforcement operations and enforcement related aircraft
flights in wilderness areas reduce the quality of the wilderness experience.

The international border fence is repeatedly cut or torn down in many
locations forcing Federal agency staff and grazing permitees to constantly
make repairs. Horses and cows from Mexico trespassing on Federal lands in
the United States are a significant and reoccurring problem. Gates are
rammed, security locks are cut, signs are driven over and heavy damage or
destruction of water developments and other improvements by undocumented
aliens traveling through Federal lands and seeking drinking water in remote
locations occur regularly. Recreational, cultural and administrative sites
are repeatedly vandalized and damaged. All of this adds significantly to the
cost of maintaining Federal improvements.

Tons of trash and high concentrations of human waste are left behind by
undocumented aliens. This impacts wildlife, vegetation and water quality in
the uplands, in washes and along rivers and streams. This also detracts from
scenic qualities and can effect human and animal health from spread of
bacteria and disease.

Warming and cooking fires built and abandoned by undocumented aliens have
caused wildfires that have destroyed valuable natural and cultural
resources. The fires pose a threat to visitors, residents and Federal and
local firefighters as well as to the undocumented aliens camping in or
migrating through the area.


--
Hanged in effigy at Brazoria for wanting peace with Mexico, these "tories"
were: Ira Lewis (1800-1867), Thomas Jefferson Chambers (1802-1865) and
Samuel May Williams (1795-1858).
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From: "Lets Roll" <LetsRoll@Meet-Me-In-Hell.com>
Newsgroups: tx.general,az.general,houston.general,soc.culture.usa,neworleans.general
Subject: Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:03:32 -0600
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