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Article #4062Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice
From: Lets Roll
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:14
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:14
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"phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:atj56o$14u686$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de... > > "Lets Roll" <LetsRoll@Meet-Me-In-Hell.com> wrote in message > news:atj4mj$bh8$1@news.chatlink.com... > > > > > > > > "phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:atj3bu$13t9cc$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de... > > > > > > "Lets Roll" <LetsRoll@Meet-Me-In-Hell.com> wrote in message > > > news:atiqm7$5dg$1@news.chatlink.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > > > news:atibu4$144ukv$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de... > > > > > > > > > > > The Immigration and Naturalization Service through the U.S. Border > > > > Patrol, > > > > > > the U.S. Department of the Interior, the U.S. Forest Service and > the > > > > U.S. > > > > > > Environmental Protection Agency have prepared this report in > > response > > > to > > > > > > requests by the House Committee on Appropriations to develop a > > > > coordinated > > > > > > plan to mitigate the environmental damage caused by illegal > > immigrant > > > > > > crossings through Federal lands in southeast Arizona and to report > > > back > > > > to > > > > > > the Committee by October 1, 2001. > > > > > > > > > > I think what you're trying to say is that the INS wants their budget > > > > > increased. What a surprise.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Put the joint down and pay attention if you want to participate in > > > > intelligent conversation. > > > > _I_ didn't say anything. > > > > But the Arizona Bureau of Land Management most certainly did say > > something > > > > to the House of Representatives in July, 2002 > > > > Report to the House of Representatives Committee on Appropriations on > > > > Impacts Caused by Undocumented Aliens Ccossing Federal Lands in > > Southeast > > > > Arizona. Executive Summary: > > > > > > Then I guess what you're saying is that there may be more than one > gummint > > > agency of department that hopes to increase its next budget. > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up. Have you a plan for offsetting these > particular > > > efforts? > > > > > > > Sure do. It is called Citzens Border Patrol. Won't cost you a penny of > > your tax money. > > Are you ready to die in a hail of bullets from gummint agents who see you as > armed and dangerous insurrectionists? > > Can I sell tickets? > Ummm...yes, as a matter of fact, I am willing to risk my life to defend our borders, private property, the rights of private citizens, and my birthright. That is part of the package that comes with American citizenship. But then, what would we expect one of you left over hippies to know about strife and sacrifice? http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/96oct/obrien/blood.htm Wonderful is the effect of impudent & persevering lying. The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. *** American citizenship once was the gold standard for all the world, a prize cherished by people the world over. Today, it is a trinket that can be purchased on any street corner for a few pesos. Devaluation of our "gold standard" has given us an entire generation of people who have reaped the benefits of citizenship, and have never been called upon to serve that citizenship. It is not unusual, I don't think, for that type to engage in profiteering during times of strife. Sell all the tickets you want. But you might ought to keep your head down, just the same. And as far as that goes, a lot of this really is about protecting private property rights and basic rights guaranteed under the Constitution. Now, if the federal government and folks like you want to declare the border dissolved and build a 10 lane super highway northbound in each and every state, you need to take that up at the federal level. Get it into an appropriations committee. Compensate fairly the citizens who are being displaced from the enjoyment of their private property and build away - or not. But current abuses cannot and will not continue unanswered.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1042ac,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid1042ac,public X-Google-Thread: 109097,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid109097,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 1084c1,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid1084c1,public X-Google-Thread: 1037c2,82ccf392a4ce3220 X-Google-Attributes: gid1037c2,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-15 17:14:58 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!uunet!ash.uu.net!news.chatlink.com!not-for-mail From: "Lets Roll" <LetsRoll@Meet-Me-In-Hell.com> Newsgroups: tx.general,az.general,houston.general,soc.culture.usa,neworleans.general Subject: Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:14:52 -0600 Organization: OWDS Inc. Lines: 127 Sender: tag10173@usa Message-ID: <atj9ef$f50$1@news.chatlink.com> References: <7e4bfa4a.0212080943.43cc7982@posting.google.com> <p5aivucpenbrraj5l0fnk93db3s2jc852o@4ax.com> <ate973$pe7$5@reader1.panix.com> <atec5s$12k9f1$2@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <ath1jo$nmp$1@reader1.panix.com> <ati5k7$n8q$1@news.chatlink.com> <atibu4$144ukv$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <atiqm7$5dg$1@news.chatlink.com> <atj3bu$13t9cc$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> <atj4mj$bh8$1@news.chatlink.com> <atj56o$14u686$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: "Lets Roll" <LetsRoll@Meet-Me-In-Hell.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dallas-209-210-12-173.safepages.com X-Trace: news.chatlink.com 1040001297 15520 209.210.12.173 (16 Dec 2002 01:14:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@chatlink.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:14:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106