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In article <atj4u8$14q7ku$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de>,
 "phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "SteveR" <texdriver@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:texdriver-E9007F.14263615122002@netnews.attbi.com...
> > In article <atie0a$131fmm$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de>,
> >  "phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "Lets Roll" <LetsRoll@Meet-Me-In-Hell.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ati7fn$nvf$1@news.chatlink.com...
> > > > "Nick" <allstarmercedesparts@jenin.ps> wrote in message
> > > > news:KiOK9.2924$1N.109336@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jerry Leslie" <LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote in message
> > > > > news:DDHK9.192755$8D.5036303@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > > > > Nick (allstarmercedesparts@jenin.ps) wrote:
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : So best to destroy what's left of your economy because a few
> hard
> > > > > > : working Mexicans get free hospital care?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $ 30,000,000 for El Paso is more than a "few"
> > > > >
> > > > > And how many billion $$ do they create for the Texas economy?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are you trying to tell us illegal aliens fall into the 50% bracket
> that
> > > pays
> > > > 96% of the taxes?
> > >
> > > Are you trying to tell us you have any idea at all of what they
> contribute?
> > >
> > > Oh yeah lying piece of shit, they get no refunds for overpayment of
> income
> > > taxes, either.  Nor do they get SS benefits they paid for.
> > >
> > >
> > This is hilarious. You are sympathetic to their plight, in that they
> > cannot benefit from a legal status because they choose to be illegal.
> >
> > I've got an idea: If they are concerned at their victimization vis a vis
> > taxation with no "representation" (other than free medical, etc), there
> > is one easy way to remedy that situation - follow the law.
> >
> > Otherwise, they can get the hell out.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get them a bit more than they get now.


Don't get me wrong, I want them to have a whole helluva lot less than 
they have now. They are stealing.



> They know their tax money deducted from their pay will never be seen again.


THat is because they are operating illegally.

Think of ENRON whining that they didn't get their tax refund this year.





> My only point is that during the five years or so I've seen topic debated
> here, not once has anyone posted any definitive proof of their contention
> that Mexican nationals cost us more than they pay in to our economy and
> gummint.


Perhaps they believed their stated assertions might lead you to actually 
research in order to counter.

Had you done so, you would have discovered that there is no actual 
benefit from illegal immigration, and reams of proof that is an extreme 
detriment. Quite simply put - there is no actual benefit to illegal 
immigration, other than to the illegal immigrant. The only possible 
argument for illegal immigration is purely emotional.



I've seen claims of expenses laid at the feet of illegals - that's
> easy, if not usually exaggerated, but I've never seen figures showing what
> illegals actually contribute.


They provide cheap labor. Endorsement of illegal immigration is 
endorsement of exploitation - not only of the illegals, but of the 
legals, who have to compete with the burden of citizenship.





> People infer in both directions, but I'm
> still waiting to see something substantial.


There are reams of data showing the destructive nature of illegal 
immigration.

There is none to support the opposite.

Wouldn't it be easier for all if you supplied the data? 


> 
> It's academic anyway, as we're having no round-up, and we're not wanting to
> collapse our economy.


It's not academic, it's real. This is a very real threat to our economy. 
You may not realize it, but several states affected by illegal 
immigration are having non-academic crises, they are going broke.



If anything of importance is done at all, it will
> affect only those not already here.  Expect amnesty for all here now.
> Politicians will wave their arms and act as politicians do, but expect
> little more - as usual....


No Amnesty, No Way.