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Article #4069Re: 'Vigilante justice' is better than no justice
From: Lets Roll
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:03
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:03
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"phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:atj6el$14bsn8$1@ID-149074.news.dfncis.de... > > > Mexican immigrants who have lived in the United States for more > > than 20 years, almost all of whom are legal residents, still have double > the > > welfare use rate of natives. > > The rest of your childish crap needs no rebuttal, but the above very last > sentence above here ties you to the porch. > > A few years, Arizona welfare folks reported that only 4% of the previous > year's aid had gone to Hispanics. Approximately 25% of our state population > is Hispanic. > > I won't pretend to know comparable figures for other states, but I don't > accept your statement even almost. > > Again, I thank you for the compliments, but I did not write these reports. You can click on the underlined links above each article and your browser will open on the sources. It is a pretty basic principal that most people master soon after signing on to the internet the first time. You have posted enough times I am surprised you have not figured that out by now. We will bear with you while you figure out the finer points of using the internet. Just wave your little mouse pointer over the underlined links and do a left click. As for your claim about your own state, you didn't provide any cites nor links to any evidence of your statement. So all your statement amounts to is your personal opinion, which isn't worth a plug peso. Again, I ask you, what is your vested interest in keeping the floods of illegal aliens pouring into the country? Are you a drug smuggler whose income depends on the continued open border policy? Or perhaps you are a coyote, who depends on the status quo to make your house payment? Or maybe you are a member of a terrorist organization who is coordinating movement of nuclear and WMD across our porous southern border? Is Saddam using your house as a safe house? What is the benefit to you for our borders to stay open? Are you one of the communists or socialists we have been warned about since our founding fathers penned the Constitution? You hiss and spit and get entirely too personal in your vehemence to not have a staked personal interest. There is no doubt you are an enemy of the country, we just can't quite put our finger on what type of enemy you are. -- Hanged in effigy at Brazoria for wanting peace with Mexico, these "tories" were: Ira Lewis (1800-1867), Thomas Jefferson Chambers (1802-1865) and Samuel May Williams (1795-1858). Are you trying to tell us illegal aliens fall into the 50% bracket that pays 96% of the taxes? http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brucebartlett/bb20020117.shtml Other upper-income groups have also seen a sharp increases in their share of the tax burden. Between 1975 and 1999, the top 5 percent of taxpayers went from 36.6 percent to 55.5 percent of taxes, the top 10 percent went from 48.7 percent to 66.5 percent, the top 25 percent went from 72 percent to 83.5 percent, and the top half of taxpayers went from 92.9 percent to 96 percent. The bottom 50 percent of taxpayers now pay just 4 percent of federal incomes taxes. Over 12 billion dollars were sent to mexico alone last year by illegal aliens. That money did not make purchases at your local Walmart. How much is 8.25% of 12 billion dollars spent in mexcrement that should have been spent in USA? The paltry amount of sales tax illegal aliens pay in this country does not scratch the surface on the cost of providing the infrastructure - roads, schools, side walks, law enforcement, judicial, emergency services, parks, social services, day labor centers, the gamut of taxpayer funded infrastructures that impact the quality of our life. 12+ million illegal aliens. You are asking the taxpayers of America to provide for a population half again as large as the population of NYC, who have never contributed even a fraction of the money for their upkeep, who even if they did contribute, their percentage of total contribution would be less than 4% of the whole. How much is 12 million times $55,200 anyway? Large-scale immigration from Mexico is a very recent phenomenon. In 1970, the Mexican immigrant population was less than 800,000, compared to nearly 8 million in 2000. And we wonder why we are broke, pay more and more taxes, and get less and less return on our money. http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/mexico/release.html Because of their much lower education levels, Mexican immigrants earn significantly less than natives on average. This results in lower average tax payments and heavier use of means-tested programs. Based on estimates developed by the National Academy of Sciences for immigrants by age and education at arrival, the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative $55,200. . Although they comprise 4.2 percent of the nation's total population, Mexican immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) account for 10.2 percent of all persons in poverty and 12.5 percent of those without health insurance. Even among Mexican immigrant families that have lived in United States for more than 20 years, almost all of whom are legal residents, more than half live in or near poverty and one-third are uninsured . Even after welfare reform, an estimated 34 percent of households headed by legal Mexican immigrants and 25 percent headed by illegal Mexican immigrants used at least one major welfare program, in contrast to 15 percent of native households. Mexican immigrants who have lived in the United States for more than 20 years, almost all of whom are legal residents, still have double the welfare use rate of natives.
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