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"james self" <jkevinself@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I am sorry to have to disagree with you but from observation the illegal
> Mexicans seem to work or at least want to work for what they consider the
> American dream.

Sometimes.  Others want to make money to send or take home to Mexico, where
it is needed.  Often to buy land to regain self-sufficiency.

> most don't pay social security taxes

Almost totally untrue.  You can't work many places without a SS card.  It's
the common linchpin for employer/employee relations.  Some are fraudulently
obtained, some are bogus.  Employers aren't trained to investigate or judge,
if documentation seems to be in order, they hire the best employees they can
for the least amount they have to pay - just like most other employers.  The
government is always free to investigate.  Sometimes they do, sometimes they
don't - not the employer's problem.

> but then again they don't receive

Generally true, but there are probably many exceptions if their new ID was
created well enough, albeit illegally.

> social security either.


> and as far as taking American jobs they only take
> the ones no one else wants I mean how many Americans will bust their butts
> digging a ditch for minimum wage?

You've just shot the racists in the foot.  There are no replacements for the
10 million Mexican workers we now have.  They're not all onion pickers,
either.  They're everywhere around us, working.

I estimate it would take three welfare titters to pick as many onions as one
experienced Mexican field worker: One picker-trainee, one picker-trainer,
and one armed guard to keep them both at work.  Production would tank, and
casualties would be high.


> if ya really want to complain about aliens lets talk about the Russians
they
> come over here and really play the system I work in a field that I see
> people from all walks of life. and of these a great many of the Russians
> come here and never get a job but through loopholes in our system these
> people get social security checks Medicare and their rent is paid by us
the
> taxpayers.

You must provide me with support data.  My ex-Ukrainian friend has been here
a year and has received jack shit.  He might like to stop paying rent for
himself, his wife, and three kids.  He's been unable to put his computer
skills to work, and has had to clerk at a Circle K convenience store for
$8/hr.  He doesn't piss away money like Americans.  He came alone and saved
enough to send for his family.  He even has a car now.

I'm proud of him and ashamed of you.