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Intrigue1@spiritone.com wrote in
news:3df0298c.10342107@news1.spiritone.com: 

> On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 03:49:59 GMT, Mike Jones
> <mdj@nycap.rr.com> wrote: 
> 
>>In article <3df012e3.4539585@news1.spiritone.com>,
>>Intrigue1 @spiritone.com says...
>>> On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 15:42:37 -0000, Monte
>>> <GeeDubya@aol.com> wrote: 
>>> >http://
>>> >www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/03/attack/main531596.shtm
>>> >l The CIA has been given the power to target for killing
>>> >Americans.  This is a corrupt, mostly inept bunch of
>>> >bunglers who are now empowered to kill you. Under the
>>> >new rules and regulations of the 'War on Terroism' an
>>> >American citizen can without any review and by the whim
>>> >of the Whitehouse and CIA have your grandmother killed
>>> >as a terroist.  Think about it folks!
>>>   If your "Grandmother" is fucking around with
>>>   terrorists, I say "Then 
>>> the bitch should die"
>>
>>Of course, it's not a requirement that Grandma be "fucking
>>around" with terrorists. It's merely a requirement that the
>>right people in the government think she is. 
>>-- 
> 
>   Nope, that's where it misses the mark. Sure, some
>   "Extremists" would 
> say "Oh, they could shoot Pa on the front doorstep" Nah,
> that's excessive and I know some will respond "Oh yeah?"
> and post some wild story.
> 
>   But this all really came about after that last missle
>   shot that took 
> out a bunch of terrorists and lo and behold an American was
> with them! 
> 
>   If it had been a countryman/woman from another country,
>   do you think 
> they'd be saying "Hey! Stop that!"? Hell no, they'd be
> saying the same thing. "Don't screw with the terrorists as
> you'll get what you deserve"
> 
>   And they damn well will.
> 


You and several others missed the significant difference.  It 
has always been okay for Americans too die as a result of 
their being in combat on the enemies side.  Never has their 
ever been a question, constitutional or oterwise about the 
propiety of killing an american who is in the enemies 
military.

Further if an American is working for the enemy AND is caught 
in our territory, be it in our own country or foreign areas 
which we are controlling, that American is held by and tried 
by the military as a spy and if found guilty can be executed.  
Note the due process involved here.  Even a foreign spy caught 
in the act is given due process.

What is changed is that by the simple expediency of the CIA or 
Whitehouse declaring an individual American a member or 
associate of a terrorist group they can then be ordered killed 
by the CIA.  Ask yourself this question, where in any document 
or court ruling in the history of this nation has it ever even 
been hinted at that a president, let alone a bureaucrat can 
decide to have an American citizen killed?

You assume presumption of guilt and worse you assume it on the 
word of a polititian.  Incredible, absolutely incredible the 
limits osme people will go to in order to avoid thinking.

Monte