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In article <4loh0s$otn@newsgate.sps.mot.com>,
Gordon Gunn  <ggunn@aton.sps.mot.com> wrote:
>In article <DqFAtA.HBw@txnews.amd.com> Rick Shank,
>ricks@dvorak.amd.com writes:
>>Ignorance, abundance of jobs, and poor road system design.  The abundance
>>of jobs allow the ignorant to actually have a place to go for employment.
>>This leads to an increased density of ignorant.  These losers had no/poor 
>>jobs where jobs were tight.  They move here (along with the intelligent,
>>but in higher percentages) in droves.  Take a poorly designed traffic 
>>system like Austin has (can you say safety?), stir in a bunch of ignoramuses 
>>(5% - 10%) and you get driving pandemonium.  
>
>And just where did you get these "statistics"?  Out of thin
>air?  I thought so.
>

I doubt exact numbers are critical to the argument.  The message I was trying
to convey is that the numbers are small but not insignificant.


>>Disclaimer: To me, ignorance (from the word ignore), is the blatant disregard
>>for knowledge.  
>
>Not in my dictionary.
>

Either get a better dictionary or learn what etymology means.



>>It is not to be confused with lacking intelligence which to
>>me means one is learning but hasn't yet achieved.  It is more a statement of
>>attitude than a statement of status.
>
>Actually, "learning but hasn't yet achieved", sounds a lot more
>like my dictionary's definition of "ignorance".  The definition
>of "ignorance" contains no mention of attitude.  Look it up.
>

I did look it up.  My dictionary specifically says; "see ignore".  It also
states lack of knowledge.  Specifically, ignorance implies lack of knowledge
from ignoring rather than just not yet experiencing.  Before I wrote this,
you were unaware.  If you still don't know the truth, you are ignorant.



>>Austin is a great city with many wonderful reasons to live here.  The driving
>>condition in this city is deplorable and deserves attention.  
>
>I agree that the condition of some of the driving *surfaces* in
>this city (i.e., short blind onramps, confusing traffic signs,
>disappearing and wierdly merging lanes, etc.) are in some cases
>deplorable.  

It's worse than you think.  The fundamental design is unsafe and inefficient.



>Personally, I think that that has orders of
>magnitude more real bearing on the sometimes perceived
>situation than any relative "ignorance" of the drivers in this
>town vs. any other.  

As you improve your reading skills you will realize what I have said
does not necessarily contradict what you have just said.



>Sure, the lower deck of I-35 has been
>nationally rated as one of the most dangerous stretches of
>interstate highway in the nation, as the previous poster
>implied, but IMHO it's due to the way it was designed, not the
>people driving on it.  

If many of the people driving on it were not ignorant, they would 
recognize it is not safe and they would slow to a safer speed.  They 
would also avoid it like the plague.


>Anyhow, how do you tell the difference
>between  a "Dallas driver" passing through Austin and a native
>"Austin driver"?  The "Dallas driver" is driving better?  Yeah,
>right.
>

Again, as you improve your reading skills, you will recognize that
this in no way resembles what I stated.



>>Telling someone
>>who recognizes this condition (who is more than likely one of the conscious 
>>drivers) 
>
>Again, yeah, right.
>
>>to get out of town, is counterproductive.  When there is a problem,
>>one should fix the problem, not shoot the observant.
>
>I *never* told him to leave town, I just offered to give him
>directions, 

Again, as you improve your vocabulary skills, you will recognize that this
is a contradiction.


>since he seems to dislike it so here.  And I try to
>work toward "fixing the problem" every time I drive by trying
>not trying to police other drivers (See "tolerance" in my
>previous post.).  It's hard sometimes, I know, but I say again
>that I have lived in many different cities, and "Austin
>drivers" are no better and no worse than most.
>

I have moved all my life and I learned to drive in Boston.  I tend to 
disagree.  Austin drivers are some of the worst I have ever seen.  There
is another group of people who tend to disagree with your assessment.  They
are called insurance companies and Austin is considered a significantly high
risk area.  If you have experienced this level of ignorant driving in other
cities, please state the names of these cities so the rest of us can avoid
them.

Rick


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