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On Thu, 25 Apr 1996 20:37:10 GMT, Rick Shank <ricks@dvorak.amd.com> wrote:
 >In article <4loh0s$otn@newsgate.sps.mot.com>,
 >Gordon Gunn  <ggunn@aton.sps.mot.com> wrote:
 >>In article <DqFAtA.HBw@txnews.amd.com> Rick Shank,
 >>ricks@dvorak.amd.com writes:
 >>>Ignorance, abundance of jobs, and poor road system design.  The abundance
 >>>of jobs allow the ignorant to actually have a place to go for employment.
 >>>This leads to an increased density of ignorant.  These losers had no/poor 
 >>>jobs where jobs were tight.  They move here (along with the intelligent,
 >>>but in higher percentages) in droves.  Take a poorly designed traffic 
 >>>system like Austin has (can you say safety?), stir in a bunch of ignoramuses 
 >>>(5% - 10%) and you get driving pandemonium.  
 >>
 >>And just where did you get these "statistics"?  Out of thin
 >>air?  I thought so.
 >>
 >
 >I doubt exact numbers are critical to the argument.  The message I was trying
 >to convey is that the numbers are small but not insignificant.
 >
 
 
 Hmm... Let's see here. First, we have an argument which 
 is based on statistics. Then, following a request for the 
 source, the person claims the basis of his argument is 
 insignificant. So as he put it, he is trying to convey
 a message based on an insignificant argument. I was 
 wondering who was going to hold down the fort for 
 Dan Quayle in Nov.
 
 >
 >>>Disclaimer: To me, ignorance (from the word ignore), is the blatant disregard
 >>>for knowledge.  
 >>
 >>Not in my dictionary.
 >>
 >
 >Either get a better dictionary or learn what etymology means.
 >
 
 	And look up Potatoe while you're at it.
 
 >
 >>>It is not to be confused with lacking intelligence which to
 >>>me means one is learning but hasn't yet achieved.  It is more a statement of
 >>>attitude than a statement of status.
 >>
 >>Actually, "learning but hasn't yet achieved", sounds a lot more
 >>like my dictionary's definition of "ignorance".  The definition
 >>of "ignorance" contains no mention of attitude.  Look it up.
 >>
 >
 >I did look it up.  My dictionary specifically says; "see ignore".  It also
 >states lack of knowledge.  Specifically, ignorance implies lack of knowledge
 >from ignoring rather than just not yet experiencing.  Before I wrote this,
 >you were unaware.  If you still don't know the truth, you are ignorant.
 >
 >
 	You could try setting up an ignorant web page and take
	votes. This would yield an insignificant basis for a
	definition, but at least we wouldn't have to have this
	here.
 
 
 >
 >>>Austin is a great city with many wonderful reasons to live here.  The driving
 >>>condition in this city is deplorable and deserves attention.  
 >>
 >>I agree that the condition of some of the driving *surfaces* in
 >>this city (i.e., short blind onramps, confusing traffic signs,
 >>disappearing and wierdly merging lanes, etc.) are in some cases
 >>deplorable.  
 >
 >It's worse than you think.  The fundamental design is unsafe and inefficient.
 >
 >
 	Given the nature of this thread, that's presuming a lot.
	but not about the streets.
 
 >
 >>Personally, I think that that has orders of
 >>magnitude more real bearing on the sometimes perceived
 >>situation than any relative "ignorance" of the drivers in this
 >>town vs. any other.  
 >
 		How many orders of magnitude? like 1 ,2  or 10-20 ?
 
 >As you improve your reading skills you will realize what I have said
>does not necessarily contradict what you have just said.
>
	Uh. Oh. Cat Fight.
>
>>Sure, the lower deck of I-35 has been
>>nationally rated as one of the most dangerous stretches of
>>interstate highway in the nation, as the previous poster
>>implied, but IMHO it's due to the way it was designed, not the
>>people driving on it.  
>
>If many of the people driving on it were not ignorant, they would 
>recognize it is not safe and they would slow to a safer speed.  They 
>would also avoid it like the plague.
>
	Good . more room to speed.

>
>>Anyhow, how do you tell the difference
>>between  a "Dallas driver" passing through Austin and a native
>>"Austin driver"?  The "Dallas driver" is driving better?  Yeah,
>>right.
>>
>
	No. The Dallas driver is at the bottom of the heap.

>Again, as you improve your reading skills, you will recognize that
>this in no way resembles what I stated.
>
>
	I think you're winning now. I'm sure any second he'll
	recognize that he can't read. Maybe after he reads the
	next vicious attack.
>
>>>Telling someone
>>>who recognizes this condition (who is more than likely one of the conscious 
>>>drivers) 
>>
>>Again, yeah, right.
>>
>>>to get out of town, is counterproductive.  When there is a problem,
>>>one should fix the problem, not shoot the observant.
>>
>>I *never* told him to leave town, I just offered to give him
>>directions, 
>
>Again, as you improve your vocabulary skills, you will recognize that this
>is a contradiction.
>
	With the education this guys getting, he'll be able
	to take on Rush with one chin behind his back. 

>
>>since he seems to dislike it so here.  And I try to
>>work toward "fixing the problem" every time I drive by trying
>>not trying to police other drivers (See "tolerance" in my
>>previous post.).  It's hard sometimes, I know, but I say again
>>that I have lived in many different cities, and "Austin
>>drivers" are no better and no worse than most.
>>
>
>I have moved all my life and I learned to drive in Boston.  I tend to 
>disagree.  Austin drivers are some of the worst I have ever seen.  There
>is another group of people who tend to disagree with your assessment.  They
>are called insurance companies and Austin is considered a significantly high
>risk area.  If you have experienced this level of ignorant driving in other
>cities, please state the names of these cities so the rest of us can avoid
>them.
>
>Rick
>

	And states too. Let's see, New Mexico via Louisiana. I feel
	safer already.

>-- 
>Disclaimer: Not only are these NOT necessarily the opinions of the great company
>I work for - AMD, they may not even be the opinions of this author.  If you are 
>smart, you will take this post as the scribblings of a madman and ignore it.
>                      "I know NUSSING, absolutely nussing."  Sgt. Schultz



	No argument about that.
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