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Mike,

>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
> equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
> Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
> Happiness.--

I agree. There are many references to a "deity" in the DoI. It seems to me
the founding fathers were God fearing men, who believed in a God of some
sort. Even an atheist has to admit that he was "created" by someone or
something beyond their control. All of us were "created" by something, sperm
and egg aside. We just didn't wake up adults one morning and go to work.

The term "their Creator" could be anyone/thing each individual chooses. It
could Jesus Christ, God, Allah, the three wisemen, the devil or your mother
and father copulating. It could even be a little green man from Mars playing
with a chemistry set he received for Christmas if that is what you choose to
believe. NEXT
M

"Mike Smith" <mws@wt.net> wrote in message
news:4AA4B5926FD72087.C45E216DC1978D95.60A4712512693AF5@lp.airnews.net...
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 16:23:54 GMT, Thomas A. Paine
> <tommy_paine@NO!2SPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote:
> >So, what's the deal Mike? Don't like being shown up for the liar that
> >you are? Still waiting for you to show me where in the Consitution our
> >government acknowledges a Supreme Being.
> >
> >
> You poor ignorant dumbass.......... I never stated that it was "in the
> Constitution", I stated that our Government had acknowledged a Supreme
> Being over 2 centuries ago.
>
> From the Declaration of Independence as presented in Congress July 4,
> 1776:<begin quote>
>
> IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
>
> The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
>
> When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one
> people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with
> another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and
> equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle
> them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they
> should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
>
> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
> equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
> Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
> Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
> among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
> governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive
> of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish
> it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
> principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall
> seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
>
............................................<snippage>......................
...............
> We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in
> General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the
> world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by
> Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and
> declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free
> and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to
> the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and
> the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and
> that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War,
> conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all
> other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And
> for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the
> protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our
> Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor. <end of quote>
>
> You poor fool, you might not understand what I quoted, so here's a
> free clue for you;
>
> Nature's God, Creator, Supreme Judge, and divine Providence all refer
> to a Supreme Being.
>
>
> Mike Smith
>
>
http://www.archives.gov/exhibit_hall/charters_of_freedom/declaration/declara
tion_transcription.html