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Article #505Re: Not one person in WWII said"...under God"
From: Monte
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:10
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:10
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 05:55:51 GMT, Jeffrey E. Salzberg <jeff.salzberg@verizon.net> wrote: >The Declaration was not an instrument of "our governmant", as it predated >by several years the constitution, which is the document that defines our >government. Wondered how long it was going to take until someone made note of that salient fact. To add to the consternation of pseudo-cum-christian intellectuals in these parts, I would add that the chief architects of the American Revolution were products and adherrants to the philosophies espoused during the philosophical 'Enlightenment' age, namely that they were deists, NOT christians. or muslims or pagans(although ol' Ben Franklin came close on the pagan issue<grin>. Deists simply hold to the existence of a supreme being of some sort or another. It is one side of the fundamental duality found in metaphysics that cannot be proven. Either there is a deity, or there is not. As for the question of the existence of inalienable rights and from whence they flow if they exist, it matters not which side of the coin you ascribe them too. No matter if a deity somehow chisled them in the ether, or men chisle them into stone: they do no exist unless the majority of men in the neighborhood permit them to exist. VonRoach, the insect brained, alluded to the Pilgrims and their supplications made on big rocks. Yes, they were Christians, but the Mayflower charter contributed little if anything toward the wording of the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. Their little benign Jim Jones Colony was simply one of many that helped populate this continent. Far more influential were the early charters from the middle Atlantic colonies, namely Virginia. But it is really senseless to try and point out historical fact to such as Mike, VonRoach and Tracey. The human species varies widely in all its characteristics, and intellectual capacity seemingly most of all. The less the intellectual capacity the less ability to understand or accept that an idea held by them may not be a universal truth. From the numbers of such defectives that are about these days, I strongly suspect that perhaps there was a largescale secret experiment by Obstetrics 30-40 yrs ago that tried comparing dropping the baby on its head from table height vs slapping its bottom at birth. Monte "Today's public figures can no longer write their own speeches or books, and there is some evidence that they can't read them either." ---Gore Vidal
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