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Article #526Re: Not one person in WWII said"...under God"
From: Monte
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 14:10
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 14:10
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 13:22:47 GMT, Clay Colwell <eris@hagbard.io.com> wrote: >In austin.general Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:05:35 GMT, Hagbard Celine >> <All_Powerful@Illuminati.org> wrote: >> Should a zealously patriotic atheist be able to tell the rest of the >> Nation that we MUST change our pledge because he doesn't believe in >> God? Even though he is not being FORCED to recite the "under God" >> part? > >How many oaths-of-office would be considered valid if an oathtaker >were to omit portions of it? Interesting side excursion. In courts of law (the specific wording varies) their are two oaths offered 1. ....so help me God 2. ...I do solemnly swear. Both are equally binding. In fact it makes not a whit of difference upon which you swear any oath: the important point is that the entity for whom the oath is sworn has jurisdiction on the consequences of breaking that oath. So a person may swear upon a bible and invoke Gods name, or swear on a first issue Spiderman comic and invoke Stan Lee's name. Both oaths are binding. Monte "Today's public figures can no longer write their own speeches or books, and there is some evidence that they can't read them either." ---Gore Vidal
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,779cfe636ec8acf8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b82c,public X-Google-Thread: 10a12a,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a12a,public X-Google-Thread: 103916,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103916,public X-Google-Thread: 109097,8fce307e743a83d6 X-Google-Attributes: gid109097,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-07-01 07:07:55 PST From: montep@email.com (Monte) Newsgroups: tx.general,houston.general,ny.general,ca.general,austin.general Subject: Re: Not one person in WWII said"...under God" Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 14:10:35 GMT Message-ID: <3d206180.8076863@news.ev1.net> References: <9snrhucefftjs04gt7572ga8adel863252@4ax.com> <4AA4B5926FD72087.C45E216DC1978D95.60A4712512693AF5@lp.airnews.net> <MPG.178867732b39b1229896ad@news.verizon.net> <7AC97F125D92A46F.D0D93C44B2845A09.4A537FA3E904418D@lp.airnews.net> <qbfuhu8c2q4pq5rsv335vf932fqnr26aid@4ax.com> <f2puhu0gsu441imv9i1dkoc8j46htummdu@4ax.com> <F47FDF6C78F4921B.C0B1CECDCDBCEB19.E4324B737AF1F078@lp.airnews.net> <HIYT8.486858$Gs.34043564@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: twhou-214-202.ev1.net X-Trace: newsa.ev1.net 1025532355 twhou-214-202.ev1.net (1 Jul 2002 09:05:55 -0500) Lines: 32 X-Authenticated-User: montep Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nnxp1.twtelecom.net!newsa.ev1.net