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On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 03:36:52 GMT, "Larry G" <gilstrap@texas.net>
wrote:
>"Monte" <montep@email.com> wrote in message
>news:3d263df4.2351641@news.ev1.net...
>> After reading the following Associated Press story I would like anyone
>> to please explain to me, because I cannot fathom the explanation
>> myself, the following things?
>>
>> 1. What part of a culture such as described should be celebrated and
>> embraced?
>
>The part that isn't hypocritical, or used as an excuse for
>greater evil.
>
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>> 2. Where is the compassion, the all encompassing(both sexes) love and
>> respect that we are told is inherent and explicit in the Islamic
>> faith?
>
>Apparently, not in the village mentioned.
>
Nor apparently in other Muslim enclaves that cut of body limbs, stone
to death people, force husbands to beat senseless their wives,
sexually mutilate their female children and on and on.  No, you cannot
hide in the apologists fantasy world of logic and claim singularity of
the event.  The events are on going and widespread.


>Question:  If a Catholic Priest rapes a young boy,
>telling the victim that he (the priest) is doing something
>good and holy for the boy, does that mean that
>the entire Catholic religion is bogus and without
>merit?
>
If one priest does it or even several in isolation and secrecy then
no, there is no blame to be laid upon the general populace of
catholics.  However if the acts become known and the leadership covers
up, ignores, or in any other manner aids in the acts reocurring, then
the leadership is guilty.  If it then becomes public knowledge, the
acts and cover-ups and the general membership does not see to the
punishment of both the abusers and their protectors, then all
catholics share the blame.  See?  When you use reason to look at a
problem you find the truth or at least you get a glimpse through the
fog, but simply apologising and making absurd explanations bsaed on
your mostly made-up perceptions of a group or culture does not float
well. 

>
>> 3. Why should anyone believe anything a muslim says about their
>> religion when acts of barbarism equal to anything done a thousand
>> years ago continue to occur seemingly daily in muslim countries?
>
>The U.S. and the U.N. both recognize the freedom
>to practice a religion of choice as a basic human
>right.  That right, however, does not extent to cover
>forcible rape, murder, mutilation or other barbarisms.
>

I am at a total loss to see what the fuck the U.N. has to do with the
practices of the muslim religion??????

>
>
>> 4. Why should not any or all muslims be held accountable until such
>> acts of atrocity cease?
>
>Should we hold the Pope responsible for his priest raping
>children?  Put him in jail for a crime he didn't commit,
>and did not advocate?  Where is the justice you desire?
>

See my above response.  The leaders are guilty if they are aware and
take no action or negative action.
>
>
>> By all means verify the authenticity of the story and then spread it
>> far and wide.  It is time to call the muslim apologists to task and
>> demand that their actions match their rhetoric.
>
>Well, they do, in an odd sort of way.  Most of the
>attack on 9/11 was in New York City, which was
>responsible for the sexual assault, in a police station,
>with a toilet plunger handle; and in another case
>an unarmed black man was shot to death by some
>trigger happy rookie cops.  Yeah, two jets into the
> WTC, that'll show those suspect raping, civilian
>murdering New Yorker infidels!  Do you think they
>learned anything?
>

Ah yes,  how truly sad.  You occasionally show signs of sentience and
then you turn around and say something completely and totally absurd.
Following your absurd reasoning then, it is only logical and right
that we free all murderers and rapists and litterers because it is
being done in other parts of the country and world.  Jesus H. Christ
Larry!  Are you purposely appearing to be dense, or do you take me and
other readers too be so stupid that we can now commit murder and plead
retardation?  What in hell has an incident of police brutality got to
do with the WTC attack?  Take your pathetic red herrings and go pedal
them elswhere.

Monte

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Gang-rape victim found no mercy in Village
Houston Chronicle 07/04/02
By KHALID TANVEER
Associated Press

MEERWALA, Pakistan - For two nervous hours, the teenager worried for
her 11-year-old brother as their father pleaded before a Pakistani
tribal council that the boy had done no wrong in walking unchaperoned
with a girl from a different tribe.
The council was unconvinced, and ordered a brutal punishment: The
boy's sister would be gang-raped to shame her whole family.
Shortly afterward, four members of the council took turns raping the
18-year-old sister in a mud hut as hundreds of people stood outside
laughing and cheering.
"I touched their feet. I wept. I cried. I said I taught the holy Quran
to children in the village, therefore don't punish me for a crime,
which was not committed by me. But they tore my clothes and raped me
one by one," the young woman told the Associated Press on Wednesday.
As she spoke, her mother, Allah Bachai, sat beside her at their home
in the village of Meerwala in Punjab province, wailing.  ...

Monte
"Today's public figures can no longer write their own speeches or
books,
 and there is some evidence that they can't read them either." ---Gore
Vidal



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>Regards,
>Larry G.
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Monte
"Today's public figures can no longer write their own speeches or books,
 and there is some evidence that they can't read them either." ---Gore Vidal