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Article #580Re: Illegal immigrants and driver's licenses! is Texas next?
From: Tracey
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:20
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:20
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SteveR wrote: > In article <3d84ddd3.7357709@news.ev1.net>, montep@email.com (Monte) > wrote: > > > http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020915-492707.htm > > > > Will Texas be the next state in the chain? California long known for > > the birthplace of nutty ideas may be auger omens of the future in this > > instance. The mexican lobby, and the politically weird, er sensitive, > > in their rush to embrace all things hispanic are trying to circumvent > > some fundamental constitutional guarantees. > > > > If these jackasses prevail what you will wind up with is a country > > with absolutely no protections for any of its citizens, because it > > will be asked to embrace the planet. A perhaps commendable goal, but > > completely flawed in the way it is being accomplished. How is it > > possible to provide constituional guarantees, if at the same time you > > must respect, even place in the forefront all the beliefs and > > practices the immigrants bring with them, most of which are in direct > > opposition to rule of law and democracy. > > > > Time to set the brakes on this drunken vehicle now. > > > > We have an 'Alexander the Great' wannabe in the whitehouse who has > > left the ranch unattended and the south fence down. > > Bush's stance on amnesty, etc dissapoints me greatly. But, both parties > are embracing this absurd move in their pandering for the Hispanic vote. > > The argument for amnesty is based on economics and compassion, but these > arguments are opposite reality. > > As Bob Ray Sanders puts it, "America has come to depend on the economic > contribution of illegal aliens" (although he doesn't use this > insensitive descriptive term, of course). > > Gee, by all indications, statistics in CA point to quite the opposite. > In fact, illegal aliens have come to depend on America's economy. > > But of course, they do the jobs "no-one else wants to do". Well, > certainly legal immigrants from Mexico want to do them, which is one > reason they came here. One reason no-one wants to do these jobs is > because the pay for them is quite far below that required to make ends > meet in America. > > So, rather than follow a controlled flow of legal aliens (which is > neccessary to sustain a growing economy), both parties endorse a > harebrained approach that assures the pay for the "unwanted" jobs will > be even lower, which totally screws the immigrants that played by the > rules. > > So, where is the "compassion" directed? Not to legal citizens of this > country. It seems the compassion is for citizens of another country, who > are to be rewarded if they successfully break our laws for a set period > of time. > > In this compassionate act, our government encourages illegals to risk > the desert in assumption that they will eventually get amnesty. Then the > hand wringing starts every time the inevitable happens, and these > desperate people die in the desert, or in the back of some coyote's > truck. > > They never seem to realize that the carrot-on-a-stick of amnesty and non > enforcement of immigration laws are the cause of these deaths. > > The assumption that this large group will somehow rise up to the > standards, and eventually earn enough to give back to the government - > which is a requirement for most of us that live here - is tremendously > flawed. The vast majority of these people will never rise beyond EIC > levels. Their only tax contribution will be through taxes on goods, and > poor immigrants don't often buy a lot more than untaxed foodstuffs. > > Rather than a "trickle down" effect, we get a "trickle up" effect, in > that those on the lower end of the economic spectrum must lower their > standard of living to compete with the illegals, who will not follow the > myriad and costly legal and social requirements the rest of us do. No > car insurance (indeed, no registration), overfilled houses, etc. > > Whwn you get down to it, the compassion is directed towards those that > want to pay less for services. Cheaper lawn care, restaurant help, etc. > > The true price of this "cheap labor" is an economy thrown completely out > of whack due to the "deregulation" of immigration. Look at the stats in > California alone, the costs of medical care, schooling, societal > services, law enforcement, and you'll see that this labor ain't so cheap. > > So, here we have Presidentes Fox and Bush hammering out a compassionate > solution for these lawbreakers which completely ignores the US > government's primary responsibilities - protections of our borders, > protections of our way of life. Both parties seem intent on ignoring > their mandates, all for the sake of votes. > > Another great flaw in this reasoning is that many of the people who > enter illegally do so not out of impatience with the pace of legal > immigration, but becaue they simply would not meet the requirements for > entry. > > These people will never enter the system, they will never piny up their > fair share. Instead, we pay higher insurance for their failure to have > same, we pay their medical, etc. > > And, since many will not qualify for entry due to criminal behavior, we > end up paying the price for their crimes, and their incarceration. > > Quite simply put, it an endorsement and reward for criminal acts which > puts tremendous strain on our economy, and is a gross negligence of the > responsibility that government has. > > OTOH, Mexico is quite protective of its southern borders. Quite > aggressive in capturing and deporting those that penetrate it, and they > charge the home country of these people a tidy sum for their efforts. > > Of course, their official stance is that they are doing this for *our* > protection, assuming these people are bound for the US. Firstly, this is > in direct contradiction to their appeals for compassion they direct > northward - asking us for something they in no way will do themselves. > And, it seems a bit racist as well, in their valiant efforts at > protecting us from the "scum south of the border" while doing nothing to > stem the flow of it's own citizens. > > What a tremendous load of bullshit. > > Well, here's a bit of the backlash: I never employ Hispanic lawn care > people, nor do I use companies that employ Hispanics when I can avoid > it. I cannot, and will not be put in the position of checking the legal > status of the people I hire to mow my lawn, and I certainly cannot trust > the government or employers to do that. So, I avoid the issue > altogether. I draw from a labor pool less likely to be part of the > problem - Black people and white people. Statistically, the chance of > either of those groups being illegal are less. Hire Americans!
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