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The following is a perfect argument in favor of top posting.

Frank Matthews

Nub Oddy wrote:
> Tracey wrote:

>>SteveR wrote:

>>>In article <3d84ddd3.7357709@news.ev1.net>, montep@email.com (Monte)
>>>wrote:

>>>>http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020915-492707.htm

>>>>Will Texas be the next state in the chain?  California long known for
>>>>the birthplace of nutty ideas may be auger omens of the future in this
>>>>instance.  The mexican lobby, and the politically weird, er sensitive,
>>>>in their rush to embrace all things hispanic are trying to circumvent
>>>>some fundamental constitutional guarantees.
>>>>
>>>>If these jackasses prevail what you will wind up with is a country
>>>>with absolutely no protections for any of its citizens, because it
>>>>will be asked to embrace the planet.  A perhaps commendable goal, but
>>>>completely flawed in the way it is being accomplished.  How is it
>>>>possible to provide constituional guarantees, if at the same time you
>>>>must respect, even place in the forefront all the beliefs and
>>>>practices the immigrants bring with them, most of which are in direct
>>>>opposition to rule of law and democracy.
>>>>
>>>>Time to set the brakes on this drunken vehicle now.
>>>>
>>>>We have an 'Alexander the Great' wannabe in the whitehouse who has
>>>>left the ranch unattended and the south fence down.
>>>
>>>Bush's stance on amnesty, etc dissapoints me greatly. But, both parties
>>>are embracing this absurd move in their pandering for the Hispanic vote.
>>>
>>>The argument for amnesty is based on economics and compassion, but these
>>>arguments are opposite reality.
>>>
>>>As Bob Ray Sanders puts it, "America has come to depend on the economic
>>>contribution of illegal aliens" (although he doesn't use this
>>>insensitive descriptive term, of course).
>>>
>>>Gee, by all indications, statistics in CA point to quite the opposite.
>>>In fact, illegal aliens have come to depend on America's economy.
>>>
>>>But of course, they do the jobs "no-one else wants to do". Well,
>>>certainly legal immigrants from Mexico want to do them, which is one
>>>reason they came here. One reason no-one wants to do these jobs is
>>>because the pay for them is quite far below that required to make ends
>>>meet in America.
>>>
>>>So, rather than follow a controlled flow of legal aliens (which is
>>>neccessary to sustain a growing economy), both parties endorse a
>>>harebrained approach that assures the pay for the "unwanted" jobs will
>>>be even lower, which totally screws the immigrants that played by the
>>>rules.
>>>
>>>So, where is the "compassion" directed? Not to legal citizens of this
>>>country. It seems the compassion is for citizens of another country, who
>>>are to be rewarded if they successfully break our laws for a set period
>>>of time.
>>>
>>>In this compassionate act, our government encourages illegals to risk
>>>the desert in assumption that they will eventually get amnesty. Then the
>>>hand wringing starts every time the inevitable happens, and these
>>>desperate people die in the desert, or in the back of some coyote's
>>>truck.
>>>
>>>They never seem to realize that the carrot-on-a-stick of amnesty and non
>>>enforcement of immigration laws are the cause of these deaths.
>>>
>>>The assumption that this large group will somehow rise up to the
>>>standards, and eventually earn enough to give back to the government -
>>>which is a requirement for most of us that live here - is tremendously
>>>flawed.  The vast majority of these people will never rise beyond EIC
>>>levels. Their only tax contribution will be through taxes on goods, and
>>>poor immigrants don't often buy a lot more than untaxed foodstuffs.
>>>
>>>Rather than a "trickle down" effect, we get a "trickle up" effect, in
>>>that those on the lower end of the economic spectrum must lower their
>>>standard of living to compete with the illegals, who will not follow the
>>>myriad and costly legal and social requirements the rest of us do. No
>>>car insurance (indeed, no registration), overfilled houses, etc.
>>>
>>>Whwn you get down to it, the compassion is directed towards those that
>>>want to pay less for services. Cheaper lawn care, restaurant help, etc.
>>>
>>>The true price of this "cheap labor" is an economy thrown completely out
>>>of whack due to the "deregulation" of immigration. Look at the stats in
>>>California alone, the costs of medical care, schooling, societal
>>>services, law enforcement, and you'll see that this labor ain't so cheap.
>>>
>>>So, here we have Presidentes Fox and Bush hammering out a compassionate
>>>solution for these lawbreakers which completely ignores the US
>>>government's primary responsibilities - protections of our borders,
>>>protections of our way of life. Both parties seem intent on ignoring
>>>their mandates, all for the sake of votes.
>>>
>>>Another great flaw in this reasoning is that many of the people who
>>>enter illegally do so not out of impatience with the pace of legal
>>>immigration, but becaue they simply would not meet the requirements for
>>>entry.
>>>
>>>These people will never enter the system, they will never piny up their
>>>fair share. Instead, we pay higher insurance for their failure to have
>>>same, we pay their medical, etc.
>>>
>>>And, since many will not qualify for entry due to criminal behavior, we
>>>end up paying the price for their crimes, and their incarceration.
>>>
>>>Quite simply put, it an endorsement and reward for criminal acts which
>>>puts tremendous strain on our economy, and is a gross negligence of the
>>>responsibility that government has.
>>>
>>>OTOH, Mexico is quite protective of its southern borders. Quite
>>>aggressive in capturing and deporting those that penetrate it, and they
>>>charge the home country of these people a tidy sum for their efforts.
>>>
>>>Of course, their official stance is that they are doing this for *our*
>>>protection, assuming these people are bound for the US. Firstly, this is
>>>in direct contradiction to their appeals for compassion they direct
>>>northward - asking us for something they in no way will do themselves.
>>>And, it seems a bit racist as well, in their valiant efforts at
>>>protecting us from the "scum south of the border" while doing nothing to
>>>stem the flow of it's own citizens.
>>>
>>>What a tremendous load of bullshit.
>>>
>>>Well, here's a bit of the backlash: I never employ Hispanic lawn care
>>>people, nor do I use companies that employ Hispanics when I can avoid
>>>it. I cannot, and will not be put in the position of checking the legal
>>>status of the people I hire to mow my lawn, and I certainly cannot trust
>>>the government or employers to do that. So, I avoid the issue
>>>altogether. I draw from a labor pool less likely to be part of the
>>>problem - Black people and white people. Statistically, the chance of
>>>either of those groups being illegal are less.
>>
>>Hire Americans!
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> Tracey, don't you have some vitally important nail drying or hair teasing 
> to do?  You've been playing on your computer too long.  Hows about 
> fucking off?
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