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McVay's sludge excised and flushed down the PK.- Illegal Mail Fraud by McVay
the shabbas-goy, using Bnai Brith & SAAF!!

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:35:03 -0700, Jason P <Jaspetr@gmail.com> wrote:

> McVay's JewLiar Project:              http://www.McVayJewLies.org/

>Kenneth McVay, OBC, repeatedly uses circular reasoning, besides
>deception and obfuscation.

>Circular Reasoning, CR.  The conclusion of an argument is, explicitly
>or implicitly, used as a reason for itself!  Identify by clearly
>explaining how it is being used as both a reason and the conclusion.
>Often this can be done by noting that in the diagram, the conclusion-
>number appears among the reason-numbers.  Warning: a number that is
>inside a conditional or a disjunction is not, by itself, being used as
>a reason or a conclusion!

>Prime Example - The so-called holocaust happened, because the
>histories of Kenneth McVay's version of the holocaust say it happened,
>and that's the real history.  Why..? Well because McVay says so... And
>that's the truth!

>       --Ken McVay (aka Obiwan Kenobi) from a galaxy far away


Subject: The Reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San
Antonio Area Foundation - 
Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!) REPOST2 

REPOST of Doc Tavish's documentation proving "The reason Canadian 
Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio Area Foundation 
- Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"

Special Note May 14, 2007: The San Antonio Area Foundation has pulled all 
links on their Annual Reports so as to not make available for public 
scrutiny how they disperse funding and who receives it. 
Nizkor is listed as a recipient in all of the Annual Reports archived. 
I have some of the Annual Reports on file and I am still waiting for 
Doc Tavish to furnish me a DVD of all of his "local archives."

JF

P.S. See related archive from google usenet:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/df5dccde3f0cf306
Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and 
Controlled by Jews REPOST
Message-ID: <j1jp2351j1hjbpi2p0upo2djcvf4aheg25@4ax.com>

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 17:22:25 -0000, <12harahlsgf7n0b@corp.supernews.com>,
kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <ojoah2p0cme0lqf2uk1v7s0j6foemmh2j5@4ax.com>,
>Roger  <roger@.> wrote:
>>In one age, called the Second Age by some,
>>   (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
>>      someone claiming to be Doc Tavish wrote
>>         in message <12o9h2t1ero1l8strgcsn2hhnain48mh02@4ax.com>: 
  
>>>Can't deal in fact so you march out the same old perjured lawsuit 
>>>which Yale lost and didn't have the guts to follow through on the 
>>>appeal. You won't be such a wise guy when you start losing major 
>>>funding Mr. McBray!!

>>And the fact is, that nothing in that lawsuit was perjury and that 
>>it was dismissed on a technicality.

>>So why do you continue to lie about it?

I haven't lied but shite like you remain in denial. 
Fabrication of evidence is perjury and issuing phoney subpoenas on ISPs 
is a most criminal offense!

I.E.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't 
Those Criminal Acts?...   Message-ID:
<d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d7iprviqm6f4js7d7l@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT

Read the above and then make the claim Yale didn't perjure himself!

>Because he is a congenital liar.

You're the congenital liar Kenneth McVay and here is an archive which 
proves such and it is an archive documenting many of your own words too!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/f355fc7048d84254?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to
CCRA!! 
SAAF Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0315
Message-ID: <v33h125c2mc66pdod3n66d1st1b3qg34mj@4ax.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2006 21:47:42 GMT

Here is a brief excerpt of the above and some new additions (people you 
know who also prove you to be a liar about receiving money from the 
San Antonio Area Foundation):

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
   What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, 
which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area 
Foundation - Nizkor Fund." 
   That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright. The Nizkor Project 
has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States. 
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money 
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" 
<end/quote>

http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_
Foundation_donation
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorWEB)

"Blakely"  wrote in message
news:282e6175.3c2814b6@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - 
or anyone else, to my knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio, 
and neither does Nizkor. Get used to it.
<end/quote>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7f4bbf6e9ebf08bb?fwc=1
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: BabbleTubby's Bullshit
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9l2g72$23od$1@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT3)
   The San Antonio Area Foundation maintains an endowment fund
for any organization they support. Ten per cent of all monies donated
go directly into an endowment fund, so that, eventually, the fund
will fuel itself.
   SAAF bylaws state that the first $10,000 donated must go into the
creation of an endowment fund maintained as a part of the trust.
That endowment fund, however, has absolutely nothing to do with the
Nizkor Project, nor has the Nizkor Project ever benefited from such a
fund.
   It's entertaining watching BlubberBabble try to make sense of it all,
and it's worth noting that he hasn't contacted any of the people at
SAAF for further information, as I suggested. That suggests that, as
always, he doesn't give a rat's ass for the truth. Duh.
<end/quote>

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8db801fb548cdb26?fwc=1
Subject: Re: What did Kenny McVay do with money he claims he never got?
Reply-To: kmcvay@nizkor.org
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <xO%P9.1985$C43.131501115@news.nnrp.ca>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:57:49 GMT
(Archived locally McVay-12-30-2002DENIAL) 
...The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the
United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received 
any money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" ...The 
San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to my 
knowledge... I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. 
Get used to it...
(This is kind of fun. You keep making an ass of yourself, and I'll keep
laughing at you.)
<end/quote>

End of Kenneth McVay's (Director of The Nizkor Project) own documented 
words denying he has ever received any money or benefit from the San 
Antonio Area Foundation OR "The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."   

NOW here is Ken McVay (as well as other sources) again but notice all 
of the contradictions to all Ken McVay claimed above!

<start/quote>
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Archived locally as: linksengl)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
-------------------------------
Related Links  

[...]

USA

[...]

 The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216

<end/quote>

<start/quote>
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=Nizkor+&num=20&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=San+Antonio+Area+Foundation&as_oq=
&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=
i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for Nizkor "San Antonio Area Foundation".   
Results 1 - 12 of about 35 (Search done November 22, 2003 5:51AM CST. 
Return page archived locally as: GOOGLEsaaf2Nizkor)

Sample returns:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/HNet/Mott231000.html
Real History and the Jewish Holocaust controversy
... His above website is registered by the "San Antonio Area Foundation - 
Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of 600 Sandau Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216, 
in Texas, USA. 

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer
... scientific standards, Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release 
of the trust funds to the San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a 
tax-exempt donation. ...  <<Tavish comment November 23, 2003: 
I thought Ken McVay has claimed to not be associated with 
"the San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund"
yet there is Ken McVay trying to get Mr. Giwer to donate!!>>

linksengl1 http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
... The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource c/o The San Antonio 
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund 600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216 

[PDF] Financials 2000 3-01 http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:sAnpRlOX1HAJ:
www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf+Nizkor++%22San+Antonio+Area+Foundation%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
... 3 Fund Types The San Antonio Area Foundation is dedicated to 
improving the quality of ... Katz Memorial Trust Beta and Melvin 
Leazar Memorial Fund Nizkor Fund Mary ... 

[PDF] 2002 Annual Report http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/AnnRpt2002.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:MHtPsNgO884J:www.saafdn.org/pdf/
AnnRpt2002.pdf+Nizkor++%22San+Antonio+Area+Foundation%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
... Lemuel G. Hodgkins Trust Dan and Gloria Oppenheimer Fund San 
Antonio Area Foundation Community Fund ... Fund Beta and Melvin 
Leazar Memorial Fund Nizkor(USA) Fund ... 

=============
New additions for September 28, 2005:
[PDF] 2003 Annual ReportFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat 
http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/AnnRpt2003.pdf
(Archived locally as: AnnRpt2003)
San Antonio Area Foundation Strategic Initiative Fund. George Weldon 
Sheffield Fund ... Nizkor (USA) Fund to Combat Racism & Anti-Semitism 
in Mass Media ...

Here is the San Antonio Area Foundation web site showing again in 
2004 that Nizkor received funding:

http://sitelevel.whatuseek.com/query.go?crid=56a9e3b448c11dd2&query=
Nizkor&slice_title=&page=1&fo=1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorFund_2004)
http://sl.wus0.com/quclk.go?rd=http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/
annualReport_current.pdf&res=1&crid=56a9e3b448c11dd2&pos=1&mr=10&qu=Nizkor
Results from This Site: 1 - 1 of 1 total results for Nizkor

untitled
... M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust Ruth Lang Charitable Fund Beta 
and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund Nizkor (USA) Fund to Combat Racism & 
Anti-Semitism in Mass Media James and Alberta Otterpohl Fund ...
http://www.saafdn.org/docs/annual_report/annualReport_current.pdf 
- 384k - 2004-09-10
(Archived locally as: annualReport_current.pdf)
I have reports on file for years 2000, 2002, 2003, and 2004 proving 
San Antonio Area Foundation doled out money to the Nizkor Fund which 
Ken McVay was the recipient!! 
Anyone wanting the pdf files need only download them or if they get
pulled I can post them to alt.binaries. SPECIAL NOTE (September 24,2006) 
I now have the 2005 report and it too shows Nizkor receiving funding!!!

<end/quote>

Here is Ken McVay's very own Nizkor web site showing Ken McVay was a 
recipient of San Antonio Area Foundation funding back in 1996!

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
(Link November 20, 2003 and no disclaimers are made!! Archived locally as:
11-20-2003SAAF2NIZKOR)

Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a 
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to 
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of 
Nazi Germany.

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from 
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor 
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...

The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has 
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.

Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which 
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi 
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military 
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and 
material from the National Archives in Washington.

Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident 
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the 
United States.  Mazal also has one of the world's largest private 
collections of Holocaust material...  <END>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9ds@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
x-search: http://search.nizkor.org/search.html

In article <5SEP199606431...@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu>, 
dmittle...@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Danny Mittleman) wrote:

>>McVay, Kenneth (KM1343)                kmc...@NIZKOR.ALMANAC.BC.CA
>>   462 - 1150 North Terminal Avenue
>>   Nanaimo, BC V9S 5T8
>>   CA      1-604-382-0615

> As Giwer has been so kind to repeatedly post this address, I would like
> to point out that while this is not the best address to use, you can
> send contributions to the Nizkor Project to this address.  They will be
> properly received and placed to good use.  You will receive a Canadian
> Tax receipt for your donation (which will work just fine in Canada no
> matter what Matt Giwer insists).  If you wish to make an American
> contribution for an American tax receipt, there is a different address
> (which maybe Giwer will decide to post one day.)

In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
 
	"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
 
and should be mailed to:
 
	San Antonio Area Foundation
	Nizkor Fund
	P.O. Box 120366
	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

We thank Dr. Mittleman for pointing this out, and thank all of
you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. 

The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial 
improvements in service.

-- 
The Nizkor Project     | http://www.nizkor.org/

<END>

But I thought Ken McVay claimed: "What Mr. Bradbury has failed to 
demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any 
association whatsoever with the "San Antonio Area Foundation - 
Nizkor Fund." 
That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very bright. 
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever 
within the United States. 
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any 
money from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"_

Look at who isn't very bright!!! 
Ken McVay is a liar plain and simple.

http://groups.google.com/group/quebec.general/msg/46868da0ffff43e5
(Archived locally as: SAAF_2)
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Re: McVay's Addresses & Phone Numbers again
Date: 1996/09/15
Message-ID: <51hqme$btg@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project

... The correct information for donations is as
   follows:
 
In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
 
        "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
 
and should be mailed to:
 
	San Antonio Area Foundation
	Nizkor Fund
	P.O. Box 120366
	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

Tel:  (210) 225-2243
Fax:  (210) 225-1980

<<Tavish comment: Those phone numbers are the same ones that San 
Antonio Area Foundation gives out at its web site YET McVay claims 
to have no connection with the SAAF or to have ever received any 
funding from them!!!
http://www.saafdn.org/       (Archived locally as: SAAFinfo)
San Antonio Area Foundation
110 Broadway, Suite 230   |   San Antonio, Texas 78205   
Phone: 210.225.2243   Fax: 210.225.1980   Email: info@saafdn.org >>

<END>

More of Ken McBray contradicting himself and proving what a bold 
faced liar he truly is:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$ctm@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
X-Deja-AN: 160389285
references: <4or264$1ar6@useneta1.news.prodigy.com>
<31c2fa3a.16855786@news.annap.infi.net> <4pv7ht$7o7@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>
<4pvcb1$d53@boris.eden.com>
organization: The Nizkor Project

In article <4pvcb1$...@boris.eden.com>, mcur...@eden.com (Mike Curtis) wrote:

>mgi...@ix.netcom.com (Matt Giwer) wrote:

     "Supposedly a synagogue is collected tax free 
     contributions for Nizkor even though Nizkor does not 
     have tax exempt status. "

>This is the Troll who has to put his stamp on every thread no matter
>what.

But he's our troll :-)

Let him explain this one:

In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
 
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund

and should be mailed to:
 
	San Antonio Area Foundation
	Nizkor Fund
	P.O. Box 120366
	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

[...]

<END>

But Ken are you trying to tell us that after all of your begging for 
funds to The Nizkor Project via the San Antonio Area Foundation - 
Nizkor Fund that you never received any money as you are on record 
as claiming-- "The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort 
whatsoever within the United States. 
Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money 
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"

This one is a real eye opener!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/225d5191538edc6d?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: FinstenNizkorSAAF)
From: Laura Finsten <finsten@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
Subject: Re: Yet another Nazional Appliance Illiteracy Alert!
Date: 1997/06/08
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970608110523.5876A-100000@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
References: <3395F003.DBD@dreamon.com>
<Pine.SOL.3.96.970605150453.13357D-100000@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA>
<339a9138.97310907@news.pnet.net>

On Sat, 7 Jun 1997, Michael wrote:

[...]

> All your b s aside above (as though Bnai Brith only took checks and
> gave them to Nizkor; all innocent and stuff. Ask any professional who
> deals with not-for-profits about the ease of shuffling funds.)

I have no idea how common such "shuffling [of] funds" may be.  
But the key issue here is whether you have any evidence at all to 
support your much repeatedly but utterly empty claim that this is 
the case with the arrangement between Nizkor and B'nai Brith?  
I don't see any of you trying to smear the San Antonio Area Foundation 
which, ironically, has probably provided more funding for the project 
since it has a far larger pool of donors to draw upon....

	           ~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

I ask everyone-- Who is the liar? Ken McVay or Laura Finsten?

More people proving Ken McVay receives funding from SAAF and some 
are The Holocaust History Project members as well as THHP founder 
and director  Harry W. Mazal himself!

Here is The Holocaust History Project member Richard Graves:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e7ef783aa4a87d80
(Archived locally as: RichGraves_SAAF-NizkorFund)
From: rcgraves@disposable.com (Rich Graves)
Subject: Re: Nizkor: Who the Hell are these guys?
Date: 1997/01/08
Message-ID: <5b1345$1u3@Networking.Stanford.EDU>#1/1
organization: Fans of Nizkor, http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html

Here is how to donate to the Nizkor Project:

   In the United States, donations for the project's efforts should be
   made payable to:

        San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund

   and should be mailed to:

        San Antonio Area Foundation
        Nizkor Fund
        P.O. Box 120366
        San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

   American donors may deduct contributions as provided in section 170 of
   the Internal Revenue Code. Bequests, legacies, devises, transfers, or
   gifts are deductible for federal, estate, and gift tax purposes if
   they meet the applicable provisions of Code sections 2055, 2106 and
   2522.

(Tavish comment: Deducting contributions funneled to Nizkor via the 
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund is ILLEGAL!! 
Nizkor is NOT a non-profit organization NOR is it a charitable 
organization (I prove such further down) and anyone who is filing 
deductions will be getting a visit from the IRS sooner than
they think! In coming days Nizkor is going to lose its major 
American funding when the IRS moves in!!!)

     We very much appreciate your donations, which assist in the
     development and enhancement of The Nizkor Project website. Thank
     You.
<end/quote>