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Article #195Re: Tubular Debacle Highlights Moral Bankruptcy
From: Stephen Samuel
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 00:00
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 00:00
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sl@whiskey.wimsey.com (Stuart Lynne) wrote: >In article <4d3fb4$1o4@morgoth.sfu.ca>, >Darran Edmundson <dedmunds@sfu.ca> wrote: >}In <4cs2an$q4v@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, burrows@bcu.ubc.ca (Jeff Burrows) writes: >}>The average university student pays less than 20% of the >}>full cost of his-her education, via tuition. >}I've often wondered about this figure. Does anyone know what the student >}subsidy is for colleges providing transfer credits to universities. In my >}opinion, this figure would more accurately reflect the price of providing an >}undergraduate education. University budgets are bloated to support research, >}little of which goes into teaching undergrads. >Well there is a body of opinion that says that universities are centers of >research primarily and teaching undergrads is a bit of a sideline. I wouldn't say "sideline"... In some academic circles 'necessary evil' would be almost the proper description of the attitude. Necessary not in terms of political necessity, but rather in terms of the fact that if nobody teaches the undergrads, there won't be anybody to do the research. However my reading is that the benefit to society from the average research student's work far outweighs the subsidy to that student or the increased income (s)he may derive from having the better education. -- Stephen Samuel (604)876-0426 samuel@wimsey.com http:/www.wimsey.com/~samuel I finally understood that the derogatory termm �Indian giver� referred, not to the Indians themselves, but, rather, to our treatment of the Indians.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,5a83af437f1d6226 X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public X-Google-Thread: 1083bf,5a83af437f1d6226 X-Google-Attributes: gid1083bf,public X-Google-Thread: 10c943,5a83af437f1d6226 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c943,public From: Stephen Samuel <samuel@wimsey.com> Subject: Re: Tubular Debacle Highlights Moral Bankruptcy Date: 1996/01/13 Message-ID: <4d94bo$cng@wolfe.wimsey.com> X-Deja-AN: 135127485 references: <4cju23$sqn@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <4cs0o6$m7t@fountain.mindlink.net> <4cs2an$q4v@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <4d3fb4$1o4@morgoth.sfu.ca> <4d53qi$gp9@wolfe.wimsey.com> to: sl@whiskey.wimsey.com content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 organization: Just Another Radical x-url: news:4d53qi$gp9@wolfe.wimsey.com mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: ubc.general,van.general,bc.general x-mailer: Mozilla 1.12(Macintosh; I; 68K)