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Re: Tubular Debacle Highlights Moral Bankruptcy

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From: Phil Fraikin
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 00:00
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babbott@unixg.ubc.ca (Barrie Abbott) wrote:

>Gee, thanks for the threat. You know, I wasn't laughing when I wrote 
>"live with it". Maybe I was being arrogant and that can make more enemies 
>than friends. Mea culpa. By the way, who is the "us" in the "you havn't 
>heard the last of us"? Sounds kind of scary. And confrontational.

The "us" means all those people that aren't happy with having their
lives run by unions.  And the threat is that we won't just "live with
it".  Why shouldn't we stand up for what we believe in?  The threat is
a reality.  Think about - if you don't care about the people you are
putting out work then what makes you think others will care if you
lose your job - I certainly wouldn't be losing any sleep over it.

>It would be wise of you to remember that unions are a reality. They won't 
>just go away. The best thing for you to do is to learn to live with the 
>situation, try to understand what unionism is about, why it came to be 
>and why it exists today. Threats won't lead to any kind of understanding.
>cheers

Yes unions are a reality.  But most labour unions bear little
resemblance to their forebearers.  Unions were first implemented at a
time when workers could barely subsist on their wages.  Back then
there was no minimum wage, Canada pension plan, or  universal health
care.  But now unions, with their virtual monopoly on labour, try to
ask for a lot more than a fair wage, without regards for the people
they might affect outside of their union.

Ousting the hot dog vendors from campus is not about protecting
yourselves from unfair wages - it's about trying to maintain your
monopoly on campus, and only the slimest of chances of increasing your
numbers by having unionized hot dog vendors.  Is that  really worth
pissing off thousands of students, and putting a few more people out
of a job?
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From: Phil_Fraikin@mindlink.bc.ca (Phil Fraikin)
Subject: Re: Tubular Debacle Highlights Moral Bankruptcy
Date: 1996/01/09
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