🚀 go-pugleaf

johansen@portal.ca (George Johansen) wrote:

> You fail to
>consider some of the problems encountered by allowing him to be there. 
>First, he paid minimum wage to some girl who worked the cart most of the
>time for him... no benefits, no nothing.

Typical of the weak socialist mind:  make a statement that you THINK
must be true because, hey, those damn bloody capitalist pigs are just
trying to screw the whole world.  If you cared enough about people
to have actually had a conversation with her (instead of mentally
conscripting her into your army of oppressed, downtrodden workers)
you would know that her name was Glenna, and that she enjoyed very
much what she was doing.  The guy who owned the cart was in fact
there just as much as she was, and treated her fairly and with respect,
and not with the contempt that you thought you observed (or deduced.)


>university is
>forced to honor a collective agreement between the people who earn their
>living by serving the food in the legitimate outlets on campus.  

By what right, (BY	WHAT RIGHT!) does the union, this anti-democratic
body, think it can exclude other people from working on campus.
Campus does not belong to them.  By what right does the administration
go about it's double-dealing making back room arrangements with companies
(Coke) and unions (CUPE 116) to the screwation of students?  

Nobody seems to give a damn flying fart about the students on this campus.  
We liked Mr. Tubesteak.  We wanted to buy his food.  Some of us don't want
to pay through the nose so that food services can provide jobs to over
paid burger slinkers.  Competition on campus can only benefit students.


>Sure!  And if Mr. Tubesteak will make an equivalent "donation" to the
>university  as did Coke, I'm sure there won't be any problem having Mr.
>Tubesteak appointed the "official" hot dog at UBC either.

Why do you socialists insist on having official sanction from above
for every little thing.  Why not have a variety of food venders on
campus, competing with eachother for student dollars.  If they all
want to sell hot dogs, let them.  The administration has no business
designating an official hot dog, an official soft drink supplier, or
another one that I just remembered, an official long-distance company
for student consumption.

>Absolutely right.  I think that we should make more choices available, and
>have the students pay the price for that.

The 'price' would be better service, more choice, and lower prices
because venders would have to be consumer-oriented to make a profit.
They would have to sell students what students wanted.  As things
stand, Food Services rakes in the cash by overpricing the garbage
that students have no choice but to eat.

>Your own student organization authorized the Coke deal, 

What do you expect.  They are a pack of rabid communists.

>and the fact that
>the workers organized to form a union to improve their conditions seems to
>have eluded you.

Workers unionize to coerce their employers into paying them more.  We
have laws in this country that prevent improper working conditions and
worker exploitation.

>If you look down the road of your own past history,
>you'll likely find that at some point, the sacrifices and collective...

All you socialists can ever do is look to the past.  All you ever offer
are tired-out old ideas that don't work in the modern world.  Has anyone
out there heard ONE new idea from the left wing in this country in the
last decade?  Whenever anyone suggests that unions cause problems, we
get this 'without unions, workers will be exploited crap' that might
have been true before there was reasonable labour legislation in this
country, but is certainly not true any more.


>> Let's keep this guy on our campus.
>
>Absolutely.  <snip> Let's
>make sure that this guy pays his staff fairly, 

meddle

>provides the same benefits

meddle

>and security that the university does, 

meddle

>and pays for the right (like Coke
>did) to even show his face out there.  

meddle

>And when he's truly in a
>competitive mode, let's welcome him with open arms.  Are we willing to
>shell out $6.00 for that hot dog?

Meddle meddle meddle.  The weak socialist mind just can't fathom the
possibility that people can make their own choices about who to work
for or how much to pay for a hot dog.

Well that felt good.

Merry Christmas to all,

Michael Kyba

ps. don't forget mailto:presubc@unixg.ubc.ca