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In article <45s975$cbd@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>, boritz@cs.ubc.ca (James Boritz) says:
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>markw@unixg.ubc.ca (Mark Wilkinson) writes:
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>>In article <45n26p$1on@pinnacle.cs.ubc.ca>,
>>   boritz@cs.ubc.ca (James Boritz) wrote:
>>>Michael Kyba <kyba@bcu.ubc.ca> writes:
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>>>>Is it to provide an entertaining atmosphere for physical plant guys to drink
>>>>coffee in?  
>>>>No.
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>>>Insofar as happy workers are more productive than unhappy workers, keeping
>>>employees "entertained" is an employers responsibility.
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>>((Mark falls on the floor laughing))  I can't believe you said that!
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>Stick around, I'm sure to continue making you laugh. I can't believe
>you think it's a joke.
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>>I know lots of happy non-unionized workers... in fact... one of them has 
>>become somewhat of an icon on this campus!  Stay tuned to this station for 
>>more on THAT topic!
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>Sure, and I can find someone that voted for the Natural Law Party.
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>I know lots of happy unionized workers too. I also know
>lots of unhappy unionized workers, happy non-unionized workers and
>unhappy non-unionized workers. Believe it or not, regardless of how
>happy you try to make people feel and the social model you choose to
>do so, there will still be some unhappy people. The converse is also
>true. Regardless of how unhappy you try to make people feel and the
>social model that you choose to do so, there will still be happy people.
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>Given that you can't please all the people all the time, it seems
>reasonable to please most of the people most of the time. If unions
>can please a majority of their members (and to some degree the general
>population) they will continue to exist. If unions annoy the majority
>of their members (and a sufficiently large portion of the general
>population) then they will disappear. 
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This is true... What some of you guys don't seem to understand is that 
unionization of employee's is not up to any one else but the employee's.
They have chosen to band together, and voted to have a union become their 
bargaining agent. Unions are there to work for their members, and their
members only. So, naturally they keep their members happy by trying to get
them anything and everything. What a lot of people don't seem to understand
the bigger issues that get sh*t on in an argument like this one.. Don't even
garbage men on UBC deserve some job security. If not for them then for their
families (kids). I cannot blame them in the slightest for fighting for just
that one issue.
Also, before most of you continue on this topic, I suggest you contact the 
BCLRB (labour relations board) and learn about the rules of the game before
you make youself seem silly. (some of you already did.)