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Article #314Re: De-unionizing UBC
From: Shaun Dolan
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 00:00
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Mark Wilkinson (markw@unixg.ubc.ca) wrote: : In article <4ee0lq$m5p@grid.direct.ca>, : cskelton@direct.ca (craig skelton) wrote: : Well... Not exactly. As another respondent pointed out, unionization is not : based on a unanimous decision, but rather a 'democratic' one. The reason I am : so hesitant to use the word 'democratic' w.r.t. unionization is that they do : not have open votes (before you flame me for saying this, please phone the BC : Fed. of Labour and check out your facts!). Unions in BC are formed by the process of the signing of union cards by the employees. If more than 55% of employees sign the cards then the union is created and the employer is required by law to bargain with it. If between 45-55% of employees sign the cards then a secret ballot is held to determine the existence of a union (with the decision going the way that 50+1 % or more employees vote). : We have all seen examples of picket-line violence. Combine this with : non-secret ballots and you realize that there is really *no* democracy in the : unionization process. People are bullied into making the decision to join the : union. It really isn't a free choice at all. All strike votes are done by secret ballot are they not? And I believe in order to be legal the strike votes must be overseen by some LRB members/employees or something. It is also true that if bullying tactics are used in the creation of the union all the employer has to do is take the bullied employee before the LRB and the LRB will rule the act of forming the union invalidated. Likewise the LRB has the power to create a union if it sees that the employer has bullied employees into not signing the cards. Unions aren't the destroyers of the free market system or democracy as we know it. Nor will they be, no matter how hard some people try to make us believe it. They're merely a market force looking out for its own interests, much like any other force, ie: the employer. -- I'm a Skeptic. I believe in : There are 2 kinds of people in this religion. I believe in Jesus. : world, those who are Irish I believe he walked on Water. : And those that wish they were. Just that he did it the winter.:
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10c943,65dc9bb933ee607d X-Google-Attributes: gid10c943,public X-Google-Thread: fb374,65dc9bb933ee607d X-Google-Attributes: gidfb374,public X-Google-Thread: f8a3f,65dc9bb933ee607d X-Google-Attributes: gidf8a3f,public From: ireland@unixg.ubc.ca (Shaun Dolan) Subject: Re: De-unionizing UBC Date: 1996/01/31 Message-ID: <4enbmc$d62@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 137389074 references: <44hd4r$27q@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> <44i7hq$m42@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <olau-3009951117160001@port18.annex4.net.ubc.ca> <44ps3m$t9@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <dbl <45s975$cbd@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> <4ee0lq$m5p@grid.direct.ca> <4elon8$640@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> followup-to: ubc.general,can.university.grad,can.politics organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada newsgroups: ubc.general,can.university.grad,can.politics