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In article <311573F3.6F97@bcu.ubc.ca>, Michael Kyba <kyba@bcu.ubc.ca> says:
>
>Steven Leffler wrote:
>> 
>> Derek Nalecki (naleckid@cadvision.com) wrote:
>> 
>> : Protection from harassment are *not* basic rights. If you feel you are
>> : being harassed by your employer you have a clear choice of leaving and
>> : going to work for competition.
>> 
>>    Excuse me?  This is the most ridiculous statement I've seen on the Net
>> in a long time.  Protection from harassment is about as fundamental as
>> rights get.
>
>Wrong, wronger, wrongest.  Sorry Steve.  You had better check in with the UBC
>equity office to find out about harassment.  Actually, for a such a big
>socialist, I'm surprised that you aren't already plugged in to these guys.
>Allow me to enlighten you:
>

>a right.  If the harassment is unlawful, the victem can take legal action
>to seek redress.  Ie. no need for a union.
>
>
>> If an individual does not have the right to be protected from
>> harassment by others, there is not much point talking about concepts like
>> "rights" or "democracy".
>
>Not at all.  In fact, using the moronic socialistic definition of harassment,
>the basic right of freedom of speech would include the freedom to harass up
>to a point.  In fact my entire posting would probably irritate the average
>socialist, qualifying it as harassment.  Thank God for freedom of speech.
>If we forsook freedom of speech for freedom from harassment, no doubt there
>would be no usenet.
>
>> What are you going to say next, that protection
>> from murder is not a basic right?
Are you saying protection from murder is not a basic human right? Well,
then I'm really glad I just bought two new shotguns. But seriously, you 
capitalist Adam Smiths out there had better realize that UNIONIZATION is
a right of an employee, and you had better learn to like it. I am a 
an employee of a unionized company, and I have done some ozganizing for
the USWA. These people have rights. Just because many of them do not have
the same academic abilities as you doesn't mean they should have the right
to work for a decent living. You need to go back to the library and study 
an issue called RIGHT TO WORK... You don't even understand that.


Craig Skelton
cskelton@direct.ca                                         
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