🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: ubc.general
Article #344

Re: De-unionizing UBC

#344
From: Michael Kyba
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:00
40 lines
2221 bytes
Mcallister Brian Francis wrote:

> The Rand decision doesn't force employees to join unions.

No, it forces employees to give unions money.

>  The principle
> is that there are tangible benefits from belonging to a collective
> bargaining unit and it is reasonable to have employees pay for them.

Say I own a house in a town.  You come along and decide that every house
in town needs a new roof.  After consulting every homeowner in town, you
find that 56% of them would like you to put up a new roof for a certain
price.  So you put new roofs on every house in town and charge me for
mine, even though I was part of the 44% who wanted you to just go away.

This is considered wrong in our society because my house is mine, and
I decide to do with it.

We have to start thinking of labour in the same way.  My labour is mine,
and I should be able to sell it for whatever terms I find agreeable.
If you negotiate for my colleagues and that benefits me, I should not
have to join your club or pay you off because I did not ask you to do
any such.


> >> If they don't like the union's policies, they are always free to
> >> run for elected office and change the union policies.
> >
> >If you are not free to 'not join' then you are not free.
> 
> You are free not to join.  You are not free not to pay.

Not so.  Closed shops, which B.C. legislation promotes, prevent non-unionized
workers from selling their labour.  This is wrong.
> 
> >In B.C. many workers, including me, are not free.


MSK
Technical Details
Message-ID: <31205D47.4C4A@bcu.ubc.ca>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mail
References: <44hd4r$27q@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: f8a3f,65dc9bb933ee607d
X-Google-Attributes: gidf8a3f,public
X-Google-Thread: 10c943,65dc9bb933ee607d
X-Google-Attributes: gid10c943,public
X-Google-Thread: fb374,65dc9bb933ee607d
X-Google-Attributes: gidfb374,public
From: Michael Kyba <kyba@bcu.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: De-unionizing UBC
Date: 1996/02/13
Message-ID: <31205D47.4C4A@bcu.ubc.ca>
X-Deja-AN: 139370876
references: <44hd4r$27q@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> 
content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
organization: UBC
mime-version: 1.0
reply-to: kyba@bcu.ubc.ca
newsgroups: ubc.general,can.university.grad,can.politics
x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0b5 (Macintosh; I; 68K)