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Yeah, everyone was so much healther during the stone age before all this 
modern "medicine" nonsense. 

Paul Murray wrote:

> Yeah, everyone was so much healther during the stone age before all this 
> modern "medicine" nonsense. 

Those who survived hunger, disease and trauma were probably much 
stronger than average "civilized" humans. There is something to be said 
for survival of the fittest.

If we let more people die of degenerative diseases, we would breed a 
leaner, meaner human races. But this flies in the face of "compassion" 
which for some reason (only God knows why) is prized by the Powers that Be.

Bob Kolker

> 
> 

Paul Murray wrote:
> Yeah, everyone was so much healther during the stone age before all this
> modern "medicine" nonsense.

Yeah lets here it for living to 30.  Much better than todays 80s and 90s.

Morituri-Max wrote:
> 
> Paul Murray wrote:
> > Yeah, everyone was so much healther during the stone age before all this
> > modern "medicine" nonsense.
> 
> Yeah lets here it for living to 30.  Much better than todays 80s and 90s.

Arafat is going to a French hospital.  The French resterilize US
disposables until they fail in use (interesting for 80 psi PET cardiac
vessel dilation balloons).  May Arafat die twice.

-- 
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

Uncle Al wrote:

> Arafat is going to a French hospital.  The French resterilize US
> disposables until they fail in use (interesting for 80 psi PET cardiac
> vessel dilation balloons).  May Arafat die twice.

And in excruciating agony.

Bob Kolker

> 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:18:02 -0700, Uncle Al wrote:

>   May Arafat die twice.

May his meaty lips french kiss you. 

-- 

     kAr nabAsheh zerangeh.

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:20:40 -0400, robert j. kolker wrote:

> Uncle Al wrote:
> 
>> Arafat is going to a French hospital.  The French resterilize US
>> disposables until they fail in use (interesting for 80 psi PET cardiac
>> vessel dilation balloons).  May Arafat die twice.
> 
> And in excruciating agony.
> 
> Bob Kolker
> 

May his meaty lips come together in a gesture of a kiss sent
to you while he's looking at you. 

-- 

     sartarAshi ro az sare kachale mA mikhAd yAd
     begireh.

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote...
>> vessel dilation balloons).  May Arafat die twice.
>
> And in excruciating agony.

Charming people.

I assume all this is because your government has told you he is "bad"? 
Remember he once won a Nobel peace prize.  Remember your government once 
considered him "good".  How fickle we are...

He's a politician.  I assume he's as bad as the rest of them, but not much 
worse.

--
Stephen Oakes

Maleki wrote:

> May his meaty lips come together in a gesture of a kiss sent
> to you while he's looking at you. 

Yuccch! It is amazing that the goat herder Arafat could ever find a 
wife. She must be very hairy and ugly.

Bob Kolker

> 

Stephen Oakes wrote:

> I assume all this is because your government has told you he is "bad"? 
> Remember he once won a Nobel peace prize.  Remember your government once 
> considered him "good".  How fickle we are...

He also carried a side arm when he address the United Nations. I never 
considered him good. He has been the enemy of my people (therefore my 
enemy) since the git go.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote...
> He also carried a side arm when he address the United Nations. I never 
> considered him good. He has been the enemy of my people (therefore my 
> enemy) since the git go.

Perhaps you shouldn't think in terms of "enemies".

--
Stephen Oakes

do the world a favour and tell us the secret of managing gall strones.
 am genuinely interested
Stan
"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer (at) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:41808cee$0$15756$7a628cd7@news.club-internet.fr...
> A kind forward from aus.ng for your my dear friends
> ***************************************
>
> That gallstone problem in Mr Arafat 's health report is a very well known
> problem plaguing all that population from Syria to Egypt !
> It is very easily alleviated but that knowledge belongs to only a few
> individuals & True Geologists indeed like me !
>
> It illustrates _ as it is the case in Australia at the present time indeed
_
> the crude ignorance of the Quacks in charge of health throughout the world
!
> Dezzzeazezzz are seen as normal by the Medics ' brainwashed & childish
> populations,  accepting blindfolded the Germzzzz , Virusezzz and Ugene as
> the cause of their dezzzeazezzz !
>
> Poor fools, who like Mr Arafat, beuuuuuuuulieve in noted Quacks  '
> Irresponsibility  Th�auriz such as Jenner's  & Pasteur's , as much as
other
> crude fools beuuuuuulieve in Haggard Ziz's Glaaaaciations , Dar Ween'
> Eeevolution , Fredy Waggonner 's Continental Rafting; Lyell 's
Uniformismmm,
> Murchison's Time Column, Belgium Archbishop ( hop_hop ) Lemaire  's GROS
> BOUM clownerie etc etc .... AND ALL THOSE THINGS BEING  TAUGHT AT THE
> PRESENT TIME AT THOSE SHAMEFUL CURTIN, MONASH,  ANU etc UniversitieZZZ
> indeed !
>
> NO ! Mr Arafat is lost  ! ... since like so many before and after he has
> entrusted & surrendered  his life to Fools i.e.   Rabbids , Mollards &
> Preeests of all types of Sci000ntific & Fanatic Sects ! The team of Quacks
> at this bedside is  the proof of what I assert  indeed !
>
> ... and as an Australian Mining Pioneer,  I know of course how to cure
that
> bloke in 5 days flat ... like any other Cancer, Aids, Arthritis,
> Arteriosclerosis Slave etc and Chemists / Pharmacists'  Shits / Drug
taking
> addict
>
> Mr Arafat ,  like the most part of the world, has  been fed throughout his
> life on Quacks' ordered pills ! He has like the like of you, Bastards,
> surrendered his Almighty Creator  ( & Celtic God indeed )  's Gift of Free
> Will and Free Mind to doctorzzz and professorzzzz and other Universitiezzz
> mind programmed Academic Buffoons ................. AND NOW LIKE THE REST
OF
> YOU _ INCLUDING HOWARD & GALLOP _  HE IS RIGHTLY SO PAYING THE BILL !
>
> Here are a small reminder of some of the Laws of Creation
> NO IMMUNITY FOR CRIMES AGAINST OUR CELTIC  CREATOR AND AGAINST THE
CREATION
> NO IMPUNITY                 "
> NO FORGIVENESS         "
> NO FORGETTING           "
>
> So, let Mr Arafat 's announced death be a lesson to you all Blokes & Gals,
> and definitive pills-of-all-colours addicts, that you cannot sway Nature
> Laws ! You eat Chemical Sugar and still worse you mix it with salt in your
> food, so as to by-pass the satiety barrier imbedded in Man 's physiology
!!!
> You drink sewage water whose Physical Characteristics have been willingly
> swayed by water adduction Criminals  towards the Alkaline / Oxidised /
> damned  low Resistivity !!! You fed yourself and your children on Chemical
> Fertiliser boosted shit,  with of course as a normal bonus all the
> Pesticides , Fungicides & Herbicides in the world , added Cobalt
> radio-activity and to boost it all that GMO Shit !!! You have surrendered
> like Mr Arafat 's your health responsibility to knowall Parasits & other
> types of bragging Vermines ( and other Bougredanes ) with their
Reeeesearch
> to crash open doors,  with the use of the Charitteee business to crash
open
> your own purses too ! HEY ?
>
>
> WELL LIKE MR ARAFAT THEN PAY THE BILL !
> ANYTHING HAPPENING TO YOU,  YOU FULLY DESERVE INDEED ACCORDING TO ETERNAL
> LAWS OF ETERNAL JUSTICE AND IMMANENT RETRIBUTION !!!
> ....but by all means you can bleat in all your Synaqs, Mosqs and Churqs to
> your Walls , to your Floor or to your Idols ... That aerobics is just
> derisive to us the True Geologists indeed !
>
> With best wishes to Mr Arafat to pass over quickly from that plane into
the
> next,  where there are NO BREWS NO BRISLAMISTs AND NOT BRISTIANS ANYMORE
> !!!!
>
> With best regards
>
> -- 
> Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
> Australia Mining Pioneer
> Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer, Kintyre & Nifty Mines
> The Great Sandy Desert.of Australia
> Discoverer of the South Atlantic Submarine Gold Placers
>  (  40 Millions Tons estimate )
> FOUNDER OF THE TRUE GEOLOGY
>
> "THE GOLDEN RULE"
> "Gold and Intrigue in the Desert"
> "The true story of the discovery of the Telfer gold mine"
> Author : Bob Sheppard, President of the Australian Prospectors' Union
> Author's contact & web page : www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/
> Order from : Hesperian Press, PO Box 317 Victoria Park, 6979 W.Australia.
> AUS 40.00 + post
>
> Published in  Perth 15th December 2002
>
> * The Greatest Australian Mining Covered Up Swindle Of The 20th Century
> http://membres.lycos.fr/jpturcaud/
> ( Scuttled on Oct 29th 2003 under the Mining Criminals' cheers, and having
> reached over 92 Millions Hits )
>
> * The True  Geology
> http://membres.lycos.fr/jpt
> ( Was also wound up on Oct 29th 2003 due to plagiarism hazards )
>
>
> ~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "@&@YASSERCRACKERFAT@&@" <yassercrackerfat@yahoo.com> a �crit dans le
> message de news:41804aa8$0$22631$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Arafat 'in critical condition' I'll be back
> > 8:50 AM October 28
> >
> > Doctors have rushed to the bedside of ailing Palestinian president
Yasser
> Arafat at his
> > West Bank headquarters as a top official said the 75-year-old
Palestinian
> leader was in a
> > critical condition.
> >
> > Israeli public radio reported that Mr Arafat, who has been kept under
> virtual house arrest
> > in Ramallah for nearly three years, had lost consciousness for several
> hours, as members
> > of the Palestinian security services were placed on alert.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's health has been the subject of speculation for several days
> after a team of
> > Tunisian medics was sent to the West Bank to carry out tests over the
> weekend, although
> > Palestinian officials were insisting he had nothing more than a severe
> bout of influenza.
> >
> > However, Cabinet secretary Hassan Abu Libdeh has confirmed Mr Arafat's
> condition has
> > turned serious.
> >
> > "He has been going through a very slow recovery over the last few days,
> including the last
> > six hours and now he is in critical condition," Abu Libdeh told CNN.
> >
> > "He needs to be examined by three groups of doctors."
> >
> > Authorised to go abroad
> >
> > Israeli authorities, wary of being blamed in the event of his death,
said
> that Mr Arafat
> > would be authorised to go "wherever he wants for treatment", including
> abroad.
> >
> > Israeli Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz gave authorisation for a Jordanian
> medical team to
> > travel to Ramallah to examine Mr Arafat and he could be transferred to
> Ramallah hospital
> > if needed, his ministry said.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's senior adviser, Nabil Abu Rudeina, confirmed that a team of
> doctors was
> > examining the Palestinian leader late on Wednesday.
> >
> > "A team of Tunisian and Palestinian doctors is examining the president,"
> Abu Rudeina said
> > in a statement read out to journalists in front of Mr Arafat's
> headquarters in Ramallah.
> >
> > He says Mr Arafat "needs more rest because of his fatigue" and adds that
> Egyptian
> > President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II have offered to
send
> doctors.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's wife, Suha, who lives in Paris, was also expected to rush to
> his bedside on
> > Thursday, crossing into the West Bank from Jordan, Israeli public radio
> reported.
> >
> > Security alert
> >
> > As news began to spread of Mr Arafat's condition, security was stepped
up.
> >
> > "Agents of the Palestinian security services have been called back to
> their posts as soon
> > as possible and to go on alert," a Palestinian official told AFP, asking
> not to be named.
> >
> > Mr Arafat has been the dominant force in Palestinian politics for about
> four decades and
> > his desire to cling on to power has meant no obvious successor has been
> able to emerge.
> >
> > According to the terms of the Palestinian basic law, parliamentary
speaker
> Rawhi Fattuh
> > would be appointed as head of the Palestinian Authority for a maximum
> 60-day interim
> > period in the event of Mr Arafat's death.
> >
> > A source close to the Palestinian Authority said earlier that Mahmud
> Abbas, the deputy
> > head of Mr Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), and prime
> minister Ahmed
> > Qurei were also at the leader's bedside.
> >
> > Both men would be among the front-runners to succeed Mr Arafat.
> >
> > Mr Arafat has a history of health problems. With a tendency to shake
> slightly, he has been
> > rumoured to suffer from Parkinson's disease, but his physicians have
> claimed the trembling
> > is caused by "nervous tension".
> >
> > In 1992, he underwent brain surgery in Amman to remove a blood clot that
> formed soon after
> > he survived a plane crash in Libya.
> >
> > Last year Mr Arafat also suffered from flu and gallstones when he was
also
> reported to be
> > suffering from cancer, but no arrangements were made for external
medical
> treatment.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's lengthy confinement to his Muqataa headquarters are also
> thought to have taken
> > a toll on his health, preventing him from getting regular exercise or
even
> sunshine.
> >
> >
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>
>

Stephen Oakes wrote:
> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote...
> 
>>He also carried a side arm when he address the United Nations. I never 
>>considered him good. He has been the enemy of my people (therefore my 
>>enemy) since the git go.
> 
> 
> Perhaps you shouldn't think in terms of "enemies".
> 
> --
> Stephen Oakes
> 
> 
He  was/ is not dangerous in an active sense.  He was/is governed by his 
greed, sense of fear and mistrust of his associates and the general 
Palestinian population coupled with a stunning lack of creativity.  A 
man of no qualities. His tenure a function of the Arab gridlock.

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:18:02 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
wrote:

>Morituri-Max wrote:
>> 
>> Paul Murray wrote:
>> > Yeah, everyone was so much healther during the stone age before all this
>> > modern "medicine" nonsense.
>> 
>> Yeah lets here it for living to 30.  Much better than todays 80s and 90s.
>
>Arafat is going to a French hospital.  The French resterilize US
>disposables until they fail in use (interesting for 80 psi PET cardiac
>vessel dilation balloons).

	As a matter of fact, the French health service is the best in
Europe  And everyone is covered.

	Unlike Pertelotte, you should go out into the world.

	<Snip the antisemitic (Arab sub-section) crap.> 

	Have fun,

	Joe Cummings

Joe Cummings wrote:

> As a matter of fact, the French health service is the best in
> Europe  And everyone is covered.

Gee, that says a lot... snicker.

..is the best...  in europe...

Morituri-Max wrote:
> Joe Cummings wrote:
> 
>> As a matter of fact, the French health service is the best in
>> Europe  And everyone is covered.
> 
> 
> Gee, that says a lot... snicker.
> 
> ..is the best...  in europe...
> 
> 
> 
The French health service is one of the best in the world. You may 
choose your own physician, prescription drug prices are moderate. 
Especially noteworthy is the preventive care for children. In addition 
to health care in general, France has excellent medical schools, 
manufacturers of vaccines,etc.  I don't know why so many Americans 
believe that we have the finest, most efficient medical care system in 
the world.  We don't.

In article <HYCdnWV1G7ctfx7cRVn-vA@comcast.com>, Bob Ehrlich wrote:
> I don't know why so many Americans 
> believe that we have the finest, most efficient medical care system in 
> the world.  We don't.
>
       Careful, Bob, that'll get you flagged as being an American hater. 
Remember, America is the most perfect place in the world, by definition, 
and so if you don't think it's the most perfect place in the world then 
you must be a pinko-commie-subversive-America-Hater.
       
-- 
 Aidan Karley,
 Aberdeen, Scotland,
 Location: 57�10'11" N,  02�08'43"  W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233

Aidan Karley wrote:

>        Careful, Bob, that'll get you flagged as being an American hater. 
> Remember, America is the most perfect place in the world, by definition, 
> and so if you don't think it's the most perfect place in the world then 
> you must be a pinko-commie-subversive-America-Hater.

We have some nifty technology in the U.S.A. but the health delivery 
systems sucks lemons. Too much government regulation. Too many tort 
lawyers. Shakespeare was right --- first lets kill the lawyers (Henry VI).

Bob Kolker

Bob Ehrlich <bobehrlich@comcast.net> wrote:
>Morituri-Max wrote:
>> Joe Cummings wrote:
>>
>>> As a matter of fact, the French health service is the best in
>>> Europe  And everyone is covered.
>> Gee, that says a lot... snicker.
>> ..is the best...  in europe...
>>
>The French health service is one of the best in the world. You
>may choose your own physician, prescription drug prices are
>moderate. Especially noteworthy is the preventive care for
>children. In addition to health care in general, France has
>excellent medical schools, manufacturers of vaccines,etc.  I
>don't know why so many Americans believe that we have the
>finest, most efficient medical care system in the world.  We
>don't.

Indeed.

There are a couple of very interesting measures of health care
systems.  Infant mortality rates are probably the best measure,
and longevity rates are certainly interesting too.

Here are the top 20 from a list of 50 "selected countries", at
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004393.html

        Longevity                     Infant Mortality Rate
 =========================          ==========================
  1  Japan             81.0          1  Sweden             2.8
  2  Switzerland       80.3          2  Japan              3.3
  3  Sweden            80.3          3  Finland            3.6
  4  Australia         80.3          4  Norway             3.7
  5  Canada            80.0          5  Czech_Republic     4.0
  6  Italy             79.5          6  Germany            4.2
  7  Spain             79.4          7  France             4.3
  8  France            79.4          8  Switzerland        4.4
  9  Norway            79.2          9  Spain              4.5
 10  Israel            79.2         10  Denmark            4.6
 11  Greece            78.9         11  Austria            4.7
 12  Austria           78.9         12  Australia          4.8
 13  New_Zealand       78.5         13  Canada             4.8
 14  Germany           78.5         14  Portugal           5.1
 15  United_Kingdom    78.3         15  United_Kingdom     5.2
 16  Finland           78.2         16  Ireland            5.5
 17  Cyprus            77.5         17  Greece             5.6
 18  United_States     77.4         18  New_Zealand        6.0
 19  Ireland           77.4         19  Italy              6.1
 20  Denmark           77.4         20  United_States      6.6

Obviously France ranks rather well, and the US does not.
Specifically the infant mortality rate in the US is 136% higher
than the best, while the numbers for France are only 54% higher.

The US has "good" medical care but is nothing to brag about, and
considering economic power of the US it is a disgrace compared
to what many countries have done with far fewer resources.

Another factor, which I don't know how to provide a measure of,
is the disparity between the "haves" and the "have nots" under
the US system.  I also am not aware of whether similar
disparities exist in other systems (other than Canada where I
know it is similar to the US, and the disparity between Denmark
and Greenland).  One demonstration for the US can be provided
with a similar statistic for a Denmark/Greenland comparison.

From the CIA World Factbook (figures for 2004):

     Infant Mortality Rates

    Greenland          16.31
    American Samoa      9.48
    Puerto Rico         8.37
    Virgin Islands      8.21
    Guam                7.15
    United States       6.63
    Canada              4.82
    Denmark             4.63

I don't know where to find current figures for comparison, but
the infant mortality rates on Indian Reservations and in bush
areas of Alaska served by the Indian Health Service have
traditionally been 10 times higher than the rest of the US
itself, but have improved significantly over the past two
decades as health care has increasingly been taken over by
Tribal governments.  The last figures I can remember seeing were
still something like twice that of the US average, but that was
a great improvement over what it was prior to about 1975 or so.

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

> 
> Obviously France ranks rather well, and the US does not.
> Specifically the infant mortality rate in the US is 136% higher
> than the best, while the numbers for France are only 54% higher.

Has anyone ever calculated the infant mortality rate just for the white 
population of the U.S. My hunch is that the black underclass is keeping 
the rate high.

Sweden does not have this problem. We do.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>
>> Obviously France ranks rather well, and the US does not.
>> Specifically the infant mortality rate in the US is 136% higher
>> than the best, while the numbers for France are only 54% higher.
>
>Has anyone ever calculated the infant mortality rate just for
>the white population of the U.S. My hunch is that the black
>underclass is keeping the rate high.
>
>Sweden does not have this problem. We do.

You have a strange idea of just what is a "problem".  If
we are not giving the same medical care to *all* races,
*that* is the problem we need to correct.

My precise point was that in the US we do /not/ have a health
care system that is equally available to everyone.  It is indeed
divided by race.

Which is disgusting.

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
> 
> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
> >
> >> Obviously France ranks rather well, and the US does not.
> >> Specifically the infant mortality rate in the US is 136% higher
> >> than the best, while the numbers for France are only 54% higher.
> >
> >Has anyone ever calculated the infant mortality rate just for
> >the white population of the U.S. My hunch is that the black
> >underclass is keeping the rate high.
> >
> >Sweden does not have this problem. We do.
> 
> You have a strange idea of just what is a "problem".  If
> we are not giving the same medical care to *all* races,
> *that* is the problem we need to correct.
[snip]

Don't be an emasculated ass.  Only a fool would stay fools' hands from
smiting fools.  Invest in the future you desire, not in the future you
loathe.  100 times The State University of New York at Albany doesn't
sum to one MIT.

<http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/16/party.schools.ap/>

Society offers opportunity to the able.  Those who cannot or will not
prosper should be allowed to die of their own abilities.  Support the
best not the worst.

-- 
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
>"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
>> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>> >
>> >> Obviously France ranks rather well, and the US does not.
>> >> Specifically the infant mortality rate in the US is 136% higher
>> >> than the best, while the numbers for France are only 54% higher.
>> >
>> >Has anyone ever calculated the infant mortality rate just for
>> >the white population of the U.S. My hunch is that the black
>> >underclass is keeping the rate high.
>> >
>> >Sweden does not have this problem. We do.
>>
>> You have a strange idea of just what is a "problem".  If
>> we are not giving the same medical care to *all* races,
>> *that* is the problem we need to correct.
>[snip]
>
>Don't be an emasculated ass.  Only a fool would stay fools' hands from
>smiting fools.  Invest in the future you desire, not in the future you
>loathe.  100 times The State University of New York at Albany doesn't
>sum to one MIT.
>
><http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/16/party.schools.ap/>
>
>Society offers opportunity to the able.  Those who cannot or will not
>prosper should be allowed to die of their own abilities.  Support the
>best not the worst.

There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
> 
> There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...

Not all cultures and value systems are equal. Al is simply recognizing 
the self destructive nature of the underclass. It is a cultural thing 
and it appears to be irremedial. Equality is a pipe dream. The only 
place where it makes sense is equality in and under the law. In every 
other context equality simply does not exist.

Why waste money, time and energy on the worst when you can invest it in 
the best.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>> There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...
>
>Not all cultures and value systems are equal. Al is simply
>recognizing the self destructive nature of the underclass. It is
>a cultural thing and it appears to be irremedial. Equality is a
>pipe dream. The only place where it makes sense is equality in
>and under the law. In every other context equality simply does
>not exist.
>
>Why waste money, time and energy on the worst when you can
>invest it in the best.
>
>Bob Kolker

Be glad we *don't* implement that.  You'd have a tough row to hoe.

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

In article <2uijeeF2auqlcU5@uni-berlin.de>, Robert j. kolker wrote:
> Shakespeare was right --- first lets kill the lawyers (Henry VI).
>
       I think the actual quote is "Let's kill ALL the lawyers." A 
small, but important difference. (Shakey doesn't specify if we make 
them scoop their own eyeballs out with red hot teaspoons first, but it 
certainly is an embellishment that has much to recommend it.)
-- 
 Aidan Karley,
 Aberdeen, Scotland,
 Location: 57�10'11" N,  02�08'43"  W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233

Aidan Karley <aidan@mynameplus1.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>In article <2uijeeF2auqlcU5@uni-berlin.de>, Robert j. kolker wrote:
>> Shakespeare was right --- first lets kill the lawyers (Henry VI).
>>
>       I think the actual quote is "Let's kill ALL the lawyers." A
>small, but important difference. (Shakey doesn't specify if we make
>them scoop their own eyeballs out with red hot teaspoons first, but it
>certainly is an embellishment that has much to recommend it.)

You both probably should go take a look at the context for that
crack too.  It actually is somewhat complimentry to lawyers,
basically saying that if you want to take over the government, you
first have to get around the lawyers, who will protect it.

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:21:12 GMT, "Morituri-Max"
<newage@sendarico.net> wrote:

>Joe Cummings wrote:
>
>> As a matter of fact, the French health service is the best in
>> Europe  And everyone is covered.
>
>Gee, that says a lot... snicker.
>
>..is the best...  in europe...
>
	Oh, goodie! A country hick to educate!

	Europe is part of Abroad.  That isn't over the next field or
over the next two fields. You've got to go all the way to the shining
sea and then cross it.

	Abroad is where all those natty electronic gadgets, motor cars
and small machines  come from.  It's also where all the US jobs and US
dollars go to

	<Pause for hayseed to snicker.>.

	In Europe, health is not a market but a service.  The usual US
myth is that it was introduced by diabolical socialists to subvert the
free market.  This isn't quite right.  I'll give you some facts to put
it into context and bring the discussion bang up to date.

	When Britain was at the height of its power, there used to be
a song going around the music halls:

	"We don't want to fight, but by jingo if we do,
                   We've got the men, we've got the ships, we've got
the money too."

	(Why, it could almost describe the US today - well they've got
the ships and they've got the money.  Two out of three isn't bad.)

	At the time of the South African war, the military authorities
were appalled at the state of health of the working class volunteers.
It was obvious something had to be done. This was another factor in
the move to a health service as opposed to a health market which
didn't deliver the goods.

	How is it up to date? Easy. Let our hayseed try to find out
how many volunteers for the US army fail their medical.

	If there is a re-introduction of the draft, I wonder if the
health of US citizenry will be a problem?  The overwhelming impression
one gets is of an obese population probably sitting knee deep in
popcorn buckets.  (By the way, when are they going to introduce the
two-gallon size popcorn bucket?)

	I hope someone can show me I'm wrong, and show that the
average American is a lean, mean, fit, fighting machine..

	Have fun,

	Joe Cummings

"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
> 
> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
> >> There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...
> >
> >Not all cultures and value systems are equal. Al is simply
> >recognizing the self destructive nature of the underclass. It is
> >a cultural thing and it appears to be irremedial. Equality is a
> >pipe dream. The only place where it makes sense is equality in
> >and under the law. In every other context equality simply does
> >not exist.
> >
> >Why waste money, time and energy on the worst when you can
> >invest it in the best.
> >
> >Bob Kolker
> 
> Be glad we *don't* implement that.  You'd have a tough row to hoe.

[Uncel Al said,]

>> Society offers opportunity to the able.  Those who cannot or will not
>> prosper should be allowed to die of their own abilities.  Support the
>> best not the worst.

You don't have a reasoned answer to it, do you Floyd?  All you have is
a kneejerk Liberal spitup and demand that somebody *else* pay for it
all.   LISTEN UP ASSHOLE:  You do whatever you want with your money. 
If you presume to set social policy tha benevolently rapes MY wallet,
go fuck yourself.  I'll be gunning for you.

Spending $5 billion/year as the NSF purchases the future.  Spending $3
billion/year as Project Head Start is bullshit buying more bullshit. 
Even the Department of Education cannot find any meaningful results
after 35 YEARS of obscene spending.

Uncle Al says, "The money I make belongs to me and my family, not to a
government stooge who takes a cut and dumps the rest on slum bunnies
for squirting out babies."
 
-- 
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:41850616.C0342CAF@hate.spam.net...
> >
> > >Floyd L. Davidson aimed at Al with:
> > >> There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...
> > >
> > "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> defending Al:
> > >Not all cultures and value systems are equal. Al is simply
> > >recognizing the self destructive nature of the underclass. It is
> > >a cultural thing and it appears to be irremedial. Equality is a
> > >pipe dream. The only place where it makes sense is equality in
> > >and under the law. In every other context equality simply does
> > >not exist.
> > >Why waste money, time and energy on the worst when you can
> > >invest it in the best.
> > >Bob Kolker
> >
> "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
> > Be glad we *don't* implement that.  You'd have a tough row to hoe.
>
> [Uncel Al said,]
> >> Society offers opportunity to the able.  Those who cannot or will not
> >> prosper should be allowed to die of their own abilities.  Support the
> >> best not the worst.
>
[Al]
> You don't have a reasoned answer to it, do you Floyd?  All you have is
> a kneejerk Liberal spitup and demand that somebody *else* pay for it
> all.   LISTEN UP ASSHOLE:  You do whatever you want with your money.
> If you presume to set social policy tha benevolently rapes MY wallet,
> go fuck yourself.  I'll be gunning for you.
>
> Spending $5 billion/year as the NSF purchases the future.  Spending $3
> billion/year as Project Head Start is bullshit buying more bullshit.
> Even the Department of Education cannot find any meaningful results
> after 35 YEARS of obscene spending.
>
> Uncle Al says, "The money I make belongs to me and my family, not to a
> government stooge who takes a cut and dumps the rest on slum bunnies
> for squirting out babies."
>
[hanson]
ahahaha......ahahahaha.... --- To make money is easy! ---
--- To hang onto the fucking stuff... that's the problem! ---
So, on that issue you have a full right and good reason
to complain, Al,.....but, no man is an island. Not even you.

Did you ever hear of the notion: "Cost of doing business"
The cost of doing biz in/with/for the society YOU live in includes
the expenditure of  $3 billion/year for demands to maintain and
attempts to improving said society. Which is important. 
Because if not done so, then your slum buddies will sooner or 
later come looking for you at your house to steal from you.
You of course will run for your gun. Unfortunately for you there 
are many more of them then you have bullets........ahahaha.....
I don't wanna give you nightmares here, or a Halloween scare
but you should consider such possibilities in your grand social
planning ......AHAHAHAHA.........

So, get over your simplistic Left vs Right,  Gifted vs Stooopid notions
and live with the stark naked reality. Even better, spend some time
and educate some of your slum buddies. Show them by your 
example what they could be.........ahahahahaha.......
Consider that a (good?) portion of that $5 billion/year NSF expenditure 
is actually used by many gifted ones to study/work/monitor programs 
like headstart. Get some of that money yourself and use it wisely......
It's tax free!
ahahahaha......ahahahanson

Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
>"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
>>
>> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>> >> There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...
>> >
>> >Not all cultures and value systems are equal. Al is simply
>> >recognizing the self destructive nature of the underclass. It is
>> >a cultural thing and it appears to be irremedial. Equality is a
>> >pipe dream. The only place where it makes sense is equality in
>> >and under the law. In every other context equality simply does
>> >not exist.
>> >
>> >Why waste money, time and energy on the worst when you can
>> >invest it in the best.
>> >
>> >Bob Kolker
>>
>> Be glad we *don't* implement that.  You'd have a tough row to hoe.
>
>[Uncel Al said,]
>
>>> Society offers opportunity to the able.  Those who cannot or will not
>>> prosper should be allowed to die of their own abilities.  Support the
>>> best not the worst.
>
>You don't have a reasoned answer to it, do you Floyd?  All you have is
>a kneejerk Liberal spitup and demand that somebody *else* pay for it
>all.   LISTEN UP ASSHOLE:  You do whatever you want with your money.
>If you presume to set social policy tha benevolently rapes MY wallet,
>go fuck yourself.  I'll be gunning for you.
>
>Spending $5 billion/year as the NSF purchases the future.  Spending $3
>billion/year as Project Head Start is bullshit buying more bullshit.
>Even the Department of Education cannot find any meaningful results
>after 35 YEARS of obscene spending.
>
>Uncle Al says, "The money I make belongs to me and my family, not to a
>government stooge who takes a cut and dumps the rest on slum bunnies
>for squirting out babies."

What an idiot!

Just one example...  Head Start.

I know a lady who is a minority race, that has a degree in
elementary education who very proudly defends the Head Start
program by pointing out the she is "A Head Start Baby".  She has
an opportunity now and then to lobby US Senators and US
Congressmen (in particular, Senator Ted Stevens, who chairs the
Senate Appropriations Committee), so her opinion is oft heard in
high place on that subject.  And it is listened to too, because
she *does* have the qualifications to describe and demonstrate
how the Head Start program benefits the entire country.

Oh, I should mention too that besides the Education degree, she
also holds a Juris Doctorate and is a member of the Alaska Bar.

Uncle Al is an uncle tom...

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

"Floyd L. Davidson" <floyd@barrow.com> wrote 
> Uncle Al is an uncle tom...
>
[hanson]
AHAHAHAHAHA.....ahahaha.....AHAHAHAHA........
Floyd, that is a devastating low blow into uncle Al's beitsam!
It will take uncle Al a long time to recover from this one.
Does he really deserve it?
ahahahaha......ahahanson

"Floyd L. Davidson" <floyd@barrow.com> wrote in message
 news:87654qeljc.fld@barrow.com...
> Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> >"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:
> >>
> >> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >> >Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
> >> >> There's nothing quite as disgusting as a racist asshole...
> >> >
> >> >Not all cultures and value systems are equal. Al is simply
> >> >recognizing the self destructive nature of the underclass. It is
> >> >a cultural thing and it appears to be irremedial. Equality is a
> >> >pipe dream. The only place where it makes sense is equality in
> >> >and under the law. In every other context equality simply does
> >> >not exist.
> >> >
> >> >Why waste money, time and energy on the worst when you can
> >> >invest it in the best.
> >> >
> >> >Bob Kolker
> >>
> >> Be glad we *don't* implement that.  You'd have a tough row to hoe.
> >
> >[Uncel Al said,]
> >
> >>> Society offers opportunity to the able.  Those who cannot or will not
> >>> prosper should be allowed to die of their own abilities.  Support the
> >>> best not the worst.
> >
> >You don't have a reasoned answer to it, do you Floyd?  All you have is
> >a kneejerk Liberal spitup and demand that somebody *else* pay for it
> >all.   LISTEN UP ASSHOLE:  You do whatever you want with your money.
> >If you presume to set social policy tha benevolently rapes MY wallet,
> >go fuck yourself.  I'll be gunning for you.
> >
> >Spending $5 billion/year as the NSF purchases the future.  Spending $3
> >billion/year as Project Head Start is bullshit buying more bullshit.
> >Even the Department of Education cannot find any meaningful results
> >after 35 YEARS of obscene spending.
> >
> >Uncle Al says, "The money I make belongs to me and my family, not to a
> >government stooge who takes a cut and dumps the rest on slum bunnies
> >for squirting out babies."
> 
[Floyd]
> What an idiot!
> 
> Just one example...  Head Start.
> 
> I know a lady who is a minority race, that has a degree in
> elementary education who very proudly defends the Head Start
> program by pointing out the she is "A Head Start Baby".  She has
> an opportunity now and then to lobby US Senators and US
> Congressmen (in particular, Senator Ted Stevens, who chairs the
> Senate Appropriations Committee), so her opinion is oft heard in
> high place on that subject.  And it is listened to too, because
> she *does* have the qualifications to describe and demonstrate
> how the Head Start program benefits the entire country.
> 
> Oh, I should mention too that besides the Education degree, she
> also holds a Juris Doctorate and is a member of the Alaska Bar.
> 
> Uncle Al is an uncle tom...
> 
> -- 
> FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

> What an idiot!
> 
> Just one example...  Head Start.

Head Start has not closed any gaps. Blacks are still behind in reading, 
math and science (these are aggregrate statistics). Of course you will 
find some black students who do very well, but the averages are not good.

Its a cultural thing. If kids grow up in houses with no books, no strong 
male presence, what you will get is underclass crapdoodle, as sure as 
the sun rises in the morning. You cannot make a Gucci Bag from a pig's 
tuchass.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>
>> What an idiot!
>> Just one example...  Head Start.
>
>Head Start has not closed any gaps. Blacks are still behind in
>reading, math and science (these are aggregrate statistics). Of
>course you will find some black students who do very well, but
>the averages are not good.

Does that mean Head Start should be abandoned?  Or does it mean
we *still* aren't treating everyone equally under the law?

>Its a cultural thing. If kids grow up in houses with no books,
>no strong male presence, what you will get is underclass
>crapdoodle, as sure as the sun rises in the morning. You cannot
>make a Gucci Bag from a pig's tuchass.

Exactly.  The current laws are a pig's tuchass, and we aren't
going to get results until we stop writing laws that wall off
other cultures.

You might note too, that claiming the something is as sure as
the sun rising in the morning when you talk to a person living
at 71N Latitute is a great demonstration of your culture bias.

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message 
news:2ukvh4F2av423U1@uni-berlin.de...
> Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
> > What an idiot!
> > Just one example...  Head Start.
> 
[Bob]
> Head Start has not closed any gaps. Blacks are still behind in reading, 
> math and science (these are aggregrate statistics). Of course you will 
> find some black students who do very well, but the averages are not good.
> Its a cultural thing. If kids grow up in houses with no books, no strong 
> male presence, what you will get is underclass crapdoodle, as sure as 
> the sun rises in the morning. You cannot make a Gucci Bag from a pig's 
> tuchass.
> Bob Kolker
> 
[hanson]
But, Bob, since the Jew propaganda says that you folks are so
humanistic, philanthropic and charitable and rich why don't YOU 
start to do something about what you are bitching here about .

You know, in the spirit of Kennedy who said "A rising tide lifts all 
boats," So, kick down Bob, help the brosers, with books, YOUR
presence for tutoring, help'em pay their rent, etc......you wouldn't 
wanna be a racist and hold it against the Schwartzers that they 
are black. That would be so un-Jewish, wouldn't it. Instead improve
their culture, integrate, have your daughters marry them... bring
peace to the world, Bob............AHAHAHAHA......ahahahaha..

Or, Bob.......look at your obligation from a historic point of view. 
Persistent stories have it that there where a lot of Jews who profitably 
engaged in the Slave trade (with Arabs, your current enemy for whom 
you have "advocated massive genocide")    So, Bob in the spirit of 
reparations (like your holocaust industry but with the shoe on the other 
foot now) you really should do something about this, instead of blaming
the Blacks victims for their condition which you (collectively) have helped
to bring upon.
ahahahaha.....ahahahanson

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

> 
> You might note too, that claiming the something is as sure as
> the sun rising in the morning when you talk to a person living
> at 71N Latitute is a great demonstration of your culture bias.

I live below 48 degress north lattitude in the cradle of civilization. 
Civiliation started where they had proper sunrises and sunsets.

Bob Kolker

> 

hanson wrote:
> [hanson]
> But, Bob, since the Jew propaganda says that you folks are so
> humanistic, philanthropic and charitable and rich why don't YOU 
> start to do something about what you are bitching here about .

But I did. I helped to establish a non-profit corporation in New 
Hampshire called -Books for Negroes-. The corporation provided books and 
writing materials for underclass Negroes in the hope that some of them 
would learn how to read and not grow up to be criminals. We had some 
limited success.

We produced a T-Shirt with pictures of groups of bright looking Negro 
kids with eye-glasses, braces and holding books in their hands. 
Underneath the corporate motto: We Be Literate.

Eventually I had to drop out because I had other more pressing business. 
We had some moderat success but it was way too little to cure the 
general problem. Negro underclass culture in this country is a disaster. 
G-D is punishing us for the sin of slavery. Negroes should never have 
been brought to North America.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>
>> You might note too, that claiming the something is as sure as
>> the sun rising in the morning when you talk to a person living
>> at 71N Latitute is a great demonstration of your culture bias.
>
>I live below 48 degress north lattitude in the cradle of
>civilization. Civiliation started where they had proper sunrises
>and sunsets.

Hence people there apparently did not need to develop brains,
right?

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>hanson wrote:
>> [hanson]
>> But, Bob, since the Jew propaganda says that you folks are so
>> humanistic, philanthropic and charitable and rich why don't
>> YOU start to do something about what you are bitching here
>> about .
>
>But I did. I helped to establish a non-profit corporation in New
>Hampshire called -Books for Negroes-. The corporation provided
>books and writing materials for underclass Negroes in the hope
>that some of them would learn how to read and not grow up to be
>criminals. We had some limited success.
>
>We produced a T-Shirt with pictures of groups of bright looking
>Negro kids with eye-glasses, braces and holding books in their
>hands. Underneath the corporate motto: We Be Literate.

Which every kid could read very plainly, and was pronounced:

                     " WE BE WHITE "

>Eventually I had to drop out because I had other more pressing
>business. We had some moderat success but it was way too little
>to cure the general problem. Negro underclass culture in this
>country is a disaster. G-D is punishing us for the sin of
>slavery. Negroes should never have been brought to North America.

I know a lot of people who say the same thing about Whites.

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

> 
> Hence people there apparently did not need to develop brains,
> right?
> 

Au Contraire. In such climes people had to track the seasons. Astronomy 
developed in Babylon and Egypt, not in the cold frozen North.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>
>> Hence people there apparently did not need to develop brains,
>> right?
>>
>
>Au Contraire. In such climes people had to track the
>seasons. Astronomy developed in Babylon and Egypt, not in the
>cold frozen North.

Are you sure?  Or is that just more culture centric drivel...

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

>>
>>Au Contraire. In such climes people had to track the
>>seasons. Astronomy developed in Babylon and Egypt, not in the
>>cold frozen North.
> 
> 
> Are you sure?  Or is that just more culture centric drivel...

Read some history. Any records of Eskimo astronomers?  Not that I know 
of. Do you have any other data in this regard.

Our intellectual heritage was shaped in Egypt, Babylon and especially 
Greece. This is where mathematics astronomy and science originated. It 
is a matter of historical record.

While the men of the frozen north were invading Russia and Englad, 
cracking skulls, and collecting DanesGold, the peoples of Mediterrean 
where creating mathematics and science. And the Chinese also made a big 
contribution too. They invented gunpoweder and rockets.

Bob Kolker

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>>>Au Contraire. In such climes people had to track the
>>>seasons. Astronomy developed in Babylon and Egypt, not in the
>>>cold frozen North.
>
>> Are you sure?  Or is that just more culture centric drivel...
>
>Read some history. Any records of Eskimo astronomers?  Not that
>I know of. Do you have any other data in this regard.

Of course there are no records of such!  Why would anyone want
to keep track of what some simple people who don't even have
any form of government did!  Right?

 "The Eskimo have no government and no leaders."
  http://www.silkhouse.co.uk/tytv/html/worldaware/archive/archiveaug.shtm

In fact Europeans wrote in their silly history books for 225+
years that Eskimos were such a primitive society that they had
no government.  Then they forced Eskimo kids to go to boarding
schools and their parents were no longer able to teach them at
home...  so these "primitive" people hired an anthropologist to
write up, in a way that can be taught in Western schools, their
system of governance (the one that didn't exist).

Hence you can today go to a library and discover that there are
virtually *no* books written prior to about 1970 which say
anything other than "no governance", and almost none after about
1975 which make that claim.  (I was astounded to find the
above cited web page that still makes that claim!)

I'll leave it to you to figure which form of governance is
more primitive, theirs or ours.  But one of them is so slick
that the other didn't even know it existed for 225 years...

It happens that if you are very careful you can actually find
references in Western literature to the fact that when Europeans
first came into contact with Eskimos those Eskimos knew quite a
bit about astronomy, including apparently more about navigation
by stars than did the Europeans.

Of course it wasn't important, because they are primitive.  And
what they knew has been lost because of the arrogance of Western
culture.

>Our intellectual heritage was shaped in Egypt, Babylon and
>especially Greece. This is where mathematics astronomy and
>science originated. It is a matter of historical record.

It is matter of *your* concept of history.

>While the men of the frozen north were invading Russia and
>Englad, cracking skulls, and collecting DanesGold, the peoples
>of Mediterrean where creating mathematics and science. And the
>Chinese also made a big contribution too. They invented
>gunpoweder and rockets.

So the only useful history is that which leads to *your*
culture?  I think you've got a lot to learn.

For example, the concepts of Property Law and Environmental
Law as they exist today in the US are exceedingly primitive.
(Roughly about where Eskimos were maybe 2-3000 years ago...)

The concepts of individual freedom, human rights, and a
government based on liberty for the people are all things that
we like to think of as "American"... and indeed they are!  And
that predates European discovery of America by several hundreds
of years!

It took 250 years of exposure, along the East Coast of the US
before people from Europe, steeped in Western Culture, were able
to quite understand it.  But they did!  And one day in Boston
they revolted against the King of England and threw tea into the
bay...  all dressed up as Mohawk Indians!

Today we teach our children in grade school the the colonists
dressed as Mohawks to hide who they were...  But the fact is
*everyone* knew exactly who they were.  The dress was just
another message: Americans believe in individual liberty, and if
those "savage" Iroquois can have government based on that, so
can White people.

Here's a quote worth thinking about:

     It would be a very strange thing if Six Nations of
     Ignorant Savages should be capable of forming a Scheme
     for such an Union and be able to execute it in such a
     manner, as that it has subsisted Ages, and appears
     indissoluble, and yet a like Union should be
     impracticable for ten or a dozen English colonies.
               -- Benjamin Franklin to James Parker, 1751

-- 
FloydL. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:<2udh6rF25f6lqU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Maleki wrote:
> 
> > May his meaty lips come together in a gesture of a kiss sent
> > to you while he's looking at you. 
> 
> Yuccch! It is amazing that the goat herder Arafat could ever find a 
> wife. She must be very hairy and ugly.
> 
> Bob Kolker
> 
> >

There are people laughing at you.

"John Schoenfeld" <j.schoenfeld@programmer.net> wrote in message
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> "robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> > Maleki wrote to his brother Kolker :
> > > May his meaty lips come together in a gesture of a kiss
> > > sent to you while he's looking at you.
> >
[Bob Kolker weasels out and invokes the wife:]
> > Yuccch! It is amazing that the goat herder Arafat could ever
> > find a wife. She must be very hairy and ugly.
> >
[John]
> There are people laughing at you, Bob.....
>
[hanson]
..... because Arafat's wife looks soooooo Jewish?
......like Golda Meir in her younger years, perhaps:
http://ambassadors.net/archives/issue7/arafat_Suha_congregation.jpg
ahahaha.....ahahanson

hanson wrote:
> "John Schoenfeld" <j.schoenfeld@programmer.net> wrote in message
> news:a98beaaa.0411031103.33636ad6@posting.google.com...
> 
>>"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> 
> news:<2udh6rF25f6lqU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> 
>>>Maleki wrote to his brother Kolker :
>>>
>>>>May his meaty lips come together in a gesture of a kiss
>>>>sent to you while he's looking at you.
>>>
> [Bob Kolker weasels out and invokes the wife:]
> 
>>>Yuccch! It is amazing that the goat herder Arafat could ever
>>>find a wife. She must be very hairy and ugly.
>>>
> 
> [John]
> 
>>There are people laughing at you, Bob.....
>>
> 
> [hanson]
> ..... because Arafat's wife looks soooooo Jewish?
> ......like Golda Meir in her younger years, perhaps:
> http://ambassadors.net/archives/issue7/arafat_Suha_congregation.jpg
> ahahaha.....ahahanson
> 
OK all ready.  Let's talk about oil finding etc.  I know that it is 
crude (pun intended) but whathehell it's what we do.

"Bob Ehrlich" <bobehrlich@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> hanson wrote:
> > "John Schoenfeld" <j.schoenfeld@programmer.net> wrote in message
> > news:a98beaaa.0411031103.33636ad6@posting.google.com...
> >>"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > news:<2udh6rF25f6lqU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> >>>Maleki wrote to his brother Kolker :
> >>>>May his meaty lips come together in a gesture of a kiss
> >>>>sent to you while he's looking at you.
> >>>
> > [Bob Kolker weasels out and invokes the wife:]
> >>>Yuccch! It is amazing that the goat herder Arafat could ever
> >>>find a wife. She must be very hairy and ugly.
> > 
> > [John]
> >>There are people laughing at you, Bob.....
> >>
> > [hanson]
> > ..... because Arafat's wife looks soooooo Jewish?
> > ......like Golda Meir in her younger years, perhaps:
> > http://ambassadors.net/archives/issue7/arafat_Suha_congregation.jpg
> > ahahaha.....ahahanson
> > 
[oily John]
> OK all ready.  Let's talk about oil finding etc.  I know that it is 
> crude (pun intended) but whathehell it's what we do.
>
[hanson]
ahahaha.......oh, John is an oil man, oily John........ahahaha.......
OK then, but why finding? What's the hang up? The fucking stuff is
all over the place, in abundance, as an elementary cursory look
does show. You are not buying into the artifically created shortage
game?... or are you?.......ahahaha.......Because in reality.........

Don't hope for fossil fuel to get scarce or to run out!  Not a chance.
Ain't gonna happen. Listen. Initially, "they" say the earth had an
anaerobic envelope:~0 % O2. Present was only (relevant) CO2 and
Carbonates. Photosynth. etc. has liberated by now ~21% free O2 into
the air: That translates into ~1E+21 gr  or ~1E+15 tons  of available O2.
So, each  32 gr O2 buried somewhere 12-14 gr = 1 C (max CH4). Hence,
there is 1E+21 * 12/32 = 5E+20 gr  or ~ 5.E+14 tons of fossil C in store,
buried somewhere. So, at a current use of 3E+15 gr/yr of oil, the fossil
stuff will be deoxidized in 5E+20 gr/3E+15 gr/yr  =~ 1.5E+05 years!.

Alas, no EARLIER than in 150'000 years from now will all the fossil carbon
be burned. So, (addressing the green turds, enviro shits and all the happy
little green idiots) their cherished, green dooms day of now or tomorrow
will not arrive till after global warming is over and/or the next Ice age is
gone..........hahahahaha........ahahaha.......ahahaha....

So, can we get back now to having fun by watching that 
Kolker-Arafat-Golda Meir threesome in action.........ahahahaha.....
Maleki, the perv, has been assigned the post as the Peeping Tom.
ahahaha.......ahahahahanson.

 

I suppose there isn't one single Arab hospital in the middle east that he
trusts? Nothing in Egypt or Sirrea or Lebanon? How about Saudi Arabia?
Yemen? Iran? Even Isreal might have treated him. Why France?
 Is there a problem with Middle East hospitals and medicine? Or are they as
backwards in medicine and they are in 'getting along' with people in
general.

"Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" <mining_pioneer (at) yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> A kind forward from aus.ng for your my dear friends
> ***************************************
>
> That gallstone problem in Mr Arafat 's health report is a very well known
> problem plaguing all that population from Syria to Egypt !
> It is very easily alleviated but that knowledge belongs to only a few
> individuals & True Geologists indeed like me !
>
> It illustrates _ as it is the case in Australia at the present time indeed
_
> the crude ignorance of the Quacks in charge of health throughout the world
!
> Dezzzeazezzz are seen as normal by the Medics ' brainwashed & childish
> populations,  accepting blindfolded the Germzzzz , Virusezzz and Ugene as
> the cause of their dezzzeazezzz !
>
> Poor fools, who like Mr Arafat, beuuuuuuuulieve in noted Quacks  '
> Irresponsibility  Th�auriz such as Jenner's  & Pasteur's , as much as
other
> crude fools beuuuuuulieve in Haggard Ziz's Glaaaaciations , Dar Ween'
> Eeevolution , Fredy Waggonner 's Continental Rafting; Lyell 's
Uniformismmm,
> Murchison's Time Column, Belgium Archbishop ( hop_hop ) Lemaire  's GROS
> BOUM clownerie etc etc .... AND ALL THOSE THINGS BEING  TAUGHT AT THE
> PRESENT TIME AT THOSE SHAMEFUL CURTIN, MONASH,  ANU etc UniversitieZZZ
> indeed !
>
> NO ! Mr Arafat is lost  ! ... since like so many before and after he has
> entrusted & surrendered  his life to Fools i.e.   Rabbids , Mollards &
> Preeests of all types of Sci000ntific & Fanatic Sects ! The team of Quacks
> at this bedside is  the proof of what I assert  indeed !
>
> ... and as an Australian Mining Pioneer,  I know of course how to cure
that
> bloke in 5 days flat ... like any other Cancer, Aids, Arthritis,
> Arteriosclerosis Slave etc and Chemists / Pharmacists'  Shits / Drug
taking
> addict
>
> Mr Arafat ,  like the most part of the world, has  been fed throughout his
> life on Quacks' ordered pills ! He has like the like of you, Bastards,
> surrendered his Almighty Creator  ( & Celtic God indeed )  's Gift of Free
> Will and Free Mind to doctorzzz and professorzzzz and other Universitiezzz
> mind programmed Academic Buffoons ................. AND NOW LIKE THE REST
OF
> YOU _ INCLUDING HOWARD & GALLOP _  HE IS RIGHTLY SO PAYING THE BILL !
>
> Here are a small reminder of some of the Laws of Creation
> NO IMMUNITY FOR CRIMES AGAINST OUR CELTIC  CREATOR AND AGAINST THE
CREATION
> NO IMPUNITY                 "
> NO FORGIVENESS         "
> NO FORGETTING           "
>
> So, let Mr Arafat 's announced death be a lesson to you all Blokes & Gals,
> and definitive pills-of-all-colours addicts, that you cannot sway Nature
> Laws ! You eat Chemical Sugar and still worse you mix it with salt in your
> food, so as to by-pass the satiety barrier imbedded in Man 's physiology
!!!
> You drink sewage water whose Physical Characteristics have been willingly
> swayed by water adduction Criminals  towards the Alkaline / Oxidised /
> damned  low Resistivity !!! You fed yourself and your children on Chemical
> Fertiliser boosted shit,  with of course as a normal bonus all the
> Pesticides , Fungicides & Herbicides in the world , added Cobalt
> radio-activity and to boost it all that GMO Shit !!! You have surrendered
> like Mr Arafat 's your health responsibility to knowall Parasits & other
> types of bragging Vermines ( and other Bougredanes ) with their
Reeeesearch
> to crash open doors,  with the use of the Charitteee business to crash
open
> your own purses too ! HEY ?
>
>
> WELL LIKE MR ARAFAT THEN PAY THE BILL !
> ANYTHING HAPPENING TO YOU,  YOU FULLY DESERVE INDEED ACCORDING TO ETERNAL
> LAWS OF ETERNAL JUSTICE AND IMMANENT RETRIBUTION !!!
> ....but by all means you can bleat in all your Synaqs, Mosqs and Churqs to
> your Walls , to your Floor or to your Idols ... That aerobics is just
> derisive to us the True Geologists indeed !
>
> With best wishes to Mr Arafat to pass over quickly from that plane into
the
> next,  where there are NO BREWS NO BRISLAMISTs AND NOT BRISTIANS ANYMORE
> !!!!
>
> With best regards
>
> -- 
> Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
> Australia Mining Pioneer
> Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer, Kintyre & Nifty Mines
> The Great Sandy Desert.of Australia
> Discoverer of the South Atlantic Submarine Gold Placers
>  (  40 Millions Tons estimate )
> FOUNDER OF THE TRUE GEOLOGY
>
> "THE GOLDEN RULE"
> "Gold and Intrigue in the Desert"
> "The true story of the discovery of the Telfer gold mine"
> Author : Bob Sheppard, President of the Australian Prospectors' Union
> Author's contact & web page : www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/
> Order from : Hesperian Press, PO Box 317 Victoria Park, 6979 W.Australia.
> AUS 40.00 + post
>
> Published in  Perth 15th December 2002
>
> * The Greatest Australian Mining Covered Up Swindle Of The 20th Century
> http://membres.lycos.fr/jpturcaud/
> ( Scuttled on Oct 29th 2003 under the Mining Criminals' cheers, and having
> reached over 92 Millions Hits )
>
> * The True  Geology
> http://membres.lycos.fr/jpt
> ( Was also wound up on Oct 29th 2003 due to plagiarism hazards )
>
>
> ~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "@&@YASSERCRACKERFAT@&@" <yassercrackerfat@yahoo.com> a �crit dans le
> message de news:41804aa8$0$22631$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Arafat 'in critical condition' I'll be back
> > 8:50 AM October 28
> >
> > Doctors have rushed to the bedside of ailing Palestinian president
Yasser
> Arafat at his
> > West Bank headquarters as a top official said the 75-year-old
Palestinian
> leader was in a
> > critical condition.
> >
> > Israeli public radio reported that Mr Arafat, who has been kept under
> virtual house arrest
> > in Ramallah for nearly three years, had lost consciousness for several
> hours, as members
> > of the Palestinian security services were placed on alert.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's health has been the subject of speculation for several days
> after a team of
> > Tunisian medics was sent to the West Bank to carry out tests over the
> weekend, although
> > Palestinian officials were insisting he had nothing more than a severe
> bout of influenza.
> >
> > However, Cabinet secretary Hassan Abu Libdeh has confirmed Mr Arafat's
> condition has
> > turned serious.
> >
> > "He has been going through a very slow recovery over the last few days,
> including the last
> > six hours and now he is in critical condition," Abu Libdeh told CNN.
> >
> > "He needs to be examined by three groups of doctors."
> >
> > Authorised to go abroad
> >
> > Israeli authorities, wary of being blamed in the event of his death,
said
> that Mr Arafat
> > would be authorised to go "wherever he wants for treatment", including
> abroad.
> >
> > Israeli Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz gave authorisation for a Jordanian
> medical team to
> > travel to Ramallah to examine Mr Arafat and he could be transferred to
> Ramallah hospital
> > if needed, his ministry said.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's senior adviser, Nabil Abu Rudeina, confirmed that a team of
> doctors was
> > examining the Palestinian leader late on Wednesday.
> >
> > "A team of Tunisian and Palestinian doctors is examining the president,"
> Abu Rudeina said
> > in a statement read out to journalists in front of Mr Arafat's
> headquarters in Ramallah.
> >
> > He says Mr Arafat "needs more rest because of his fatigue" and adds that
> Egyptian
> > President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II have offered to
send
> doctors.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's wife, Suha, who lives in Paris, was also expected to rush to
> his bedside on
> > Thursday, crossing into the West Bank from Jordan, Israeli public radio
> reported.
> >
> > Security alert
> >
> > As news began to spread of Mr Arafat's condition, security was stepped
up.
> >
> > "Agents of the Palestinian security services have been called back to
> their posts as soon
> > as possible and to go on alert," a Palestinian official told AFP, asking
> not to be named.
> >
> > Mr Arafat has been the dominant force in Palestinian politics for about
> four decades and
> > his desire to cling on to power has meant no obvious successor has been
> able to emerge.
> >
> > According to the terms of the Palestinian basic law, parliamentary
speaker
> Rawhi Fattuh
> > would be appointed as head of the Palestinian Authority for a maximum
> 60-day interim
> > period in the event of Mr Arafat's death.
> >
> > A source close to the Palestinian Authority said earlier that Mahmud
> Abbas, the deputy
> > head of Mr Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), and prime
> minister Ahmed
> > Qurei were also at the leader's bedside.
> >
> > Both men would be among the front-runners to succeed Mr Arafat.
> >
> > Mr Arafat has a history of health problems. With a tendency to shake
> slightly, he has been
> > rumoured to suffer from Parkinson's disease, but his physicians have
> claimed the trembling
> > is caused by "nervous tension".
> >
> > In 1992, he underwent brain surgery in Amman to remove a blood clot that
> formed soon after
> > he survived a plane crash in Libya.
> >
> > Last year Mr Arafat also suffered from flu and gallstones when he was
also
> reported to be
> > suffering from cancer, but no arrangements were made for external
medical
> treatment.
> >
> > Mr Arafat's lengthy confinement to his Muqataa headquarters are also
> thought to have taken
> > a toll on his health, preventing him from getting regular exercise or
even
> sunshine.
> >
> >
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