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Re: Puppy For Sale [Bichon/Poodle, Chicago Area]

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From: Brad Glicken
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 00:00
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In article <ashley.gigandet.177.1937C227@facilities.gatech.edu>, ashley.gigandet@facilities.gatech.edu (Ashley Gigandet) says:
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>In article <421cee$2di@panix.com> algreen@panix.com (AlGreen) writes:
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>>Well, they should be delighted to take Molly back then. I would think 
>>that such a place would have given you some sort of written assurance 
>>that if the puppy didn't work out, they would take her back. After all, 
>>if the breeder is Missouri takes her back, he'll know what happened to 
>>the puppy that he hand-delivered only what, 9 weeks or so ago? If you 
>>sell her on the Net, who knows where she went to? I would call the 
>>breeder and tell him that you can't keep Molly, and that you would like 
>>to return her. Since she came from a concerned breeder as you said, he 
>>should take her back. Of course if he DOESN'T take her back, you may have 
>>just learned a littl more about pet stores and puppy mills...
>
>How about you try to educate instead of humiliate?  This guy is remorseful and 
>clearly  reads this group occasionally, as he took care to point out that he 
>thought he had bought from a reputable breeder (this was not the standard "I 
>just got this dog from Petland and he is purebred and he is really too big 
>for my studio apartment even though he is a mastiff and aren't mastiffs 
>supposed to be toy size dogs, 'cause that's what Petland told me when I 
>bought him?).  You could have just said "I have to disagree that she 
>definitely didn't come from a puppy mill (or even from a backyard breeder)" 
>and then give your reasons.  THEN, how about giving the guy some USEFUL advice 
>about placing a dog he clearly loves very much?
>
>Put these posts in context for goodness sakes.  There are three types of 
>people who post things like this: 
>
>        1.      Trolls ("I want to give away this cool puppy I got from this place where 
>there were hundreds of pups to choose from and I'm looking for a good 
>sausage factory to give him to...")
>        2.      People who think the Internet is "Cool" ("I have this puppy that won't 
>quit peeing on my great aunt's carpet, so since there are all these dog 
>lovers on this newfangled internet thing, I'll just give him to one of them 
>so that I can get a puppy that respects carpet a little more" and/or "I have 
>been severely allergic to dogs since I was born but this puppy in the pet 
>store was so cute that I just had to have him, but my sneezes are upsetting 
>the people in the apartment next door and they might tell the landlord and 
>I am not supposed to have pets anyway, so how about one of you nice 
>people in cyberspace take him off my hands?")   
>        3.      People who made a mistake but did not realize they were 
>making it at the time, realize it, are remorseful about it, will not do it 
>again, and sincerely want to place a loved pet with people who will love it 
>and care for it.
>
>This guy is a number 3.  There is nothing to indicate that he is going to go 
>get another dog anytime in the near or not so near future.  Come on you guys - 
>educate him with KIND words, not sarcastic ones, help him place his animal if 
>you have the ability to do so, and who knows - maybe, just maybe, he will 
>think before he recommends that his friend who is searching for a dog should 
>go to the same place he got Molly.  Or, you can make him so mad with sarcasm 
>that he says "to heck with these people" and goes off on his own with 
>Molly, recommending her breeder to anyone who might tell him they are thinking 
>about getting a puppy.
>
>Oftentimes, the sarcasm from people on this board drives away the very people 
>(the category 3's) who might actually be willing to learn from their own 
>mistakes and might help spread the word about responsible animal ownership.... 
>     
>
>__________________________
>Ashley Gigandet
>Olympic/Paralympic Planner
>Georgia Tech - Home of the 1996 Olympic Village
>"Whether we build it or not, they're coming!"
>
BRAVO!!!!  Well Said Ashley!!!

I always did think that positive reinforcement works better than
negative!!!!!!!!

Karen
Sailin' Cavaliers
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From: bglicken@iag.net (Brad Glicken)
Subject: Re: Puppy For Sale [Bichon/Poodle, Chicago Area]
Date: 1995/09/02
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