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In article <BzCoyL.Apw@newcastle.ac.uk> J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:
>Lindsay.Marshall@newcastle.ac.uk (Lindsay F. Marshall) writes:
>
>>Several people recently have brought up the subject of the notion of
>>"Engineer". Whilst I am a member of the BCS and have CEng status, I
>>object VERY strongly indeed to being described as an Information
>>Engineer. This is a stupid meaningless title and is offensive to other
>>"proper" engineers - I am married to one and she thinks the whole
>>thingt is a farce. I am Computer Scientist.
>...
>
>But the BCS _doesn't_ value scientists as much as *.Engineers. I've recently
>discovered that when evaluating computing experience, research only counts
>for half as much as routine software development. So, after 3 years doing
>original computer science research for a PhD, and thus making a genuine
>contribution to the field, I only have 1.5 years towards the requirement
>for becoming an ordinary member of the BCS (min. 4 years).
>

Hear, hear! And what bad news, as I was wondering what my PhD years would
count for to the BCS -- in fact, I was paid member of staff (research
assistant) at the time, so maybe playing that card will convince them? :-\

Not a good situation and it should be fixed. Mind you, employers seem to
take similar views, viz. 3 year PhD == 1.5 year work experience. I remain
unconvinced that this is a fair equality.

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