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Re: Can I be a member? No.

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From: N J S Ajderian
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 12:01
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In the referenced article, mct@praxis.co.uk (Martyn Thomas) writes:
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>I believe that customers wil increasingly require that senior people leading
>software projects are CEng. 
>
>I also believe that the pressure on pay for programmers is downwards
>and that the better qualified "engineers" will be paid better than their
>less qualified colleagues (lots of reasons, but just look at other
>engineering professions for comparisons).

This isn't my experience of mechanical engineering. Those with the highest
pay and status are the managers who are often not CEngs. However, a positive
development is a move towards having "Principal Engineers", responsible 
non-managers.

At my previous company, I and other project engineers (most not CEng) had to
sign a product release form accepting full responsibility under the PRODUCT
LIABILITY LAWS (!) for the machines. Surpisingly, we were not paid any more
for this. One of the main reasons that I left and changed discipline.

Nick Ajderian, CEng, MIMechE, Software Mechanic
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From: ensnjsa@gdr.bath.ac.uk (N J S Ajderian)
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Subject: Re: Can I be a member? No.
Message-ID: <1992Dec24.120119.3704@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:01:19 GMT
References: <1992Dec7.161207.179@specialix.co.uk> <peter.723923452@hilly> <1992Dec11.100637.8574@praxis.co.uk>
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