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Re: Major TETRA project ends in technical fiasco

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From: proma1
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:40
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trouble with GSM not relaible enough in an emergency,same as TETRA,it
requires too many aerial sites for a start.

the current police radio system does the job it is supposed to do in most
areas,ok not secure,but secure is only really needed by certain users.

ie special branch/firearms/cid a normal officer does not need secure radio.

GSM yes the power companies have been chucking there radio licenses away
over last year or so and going GSM.

what happend in January this year in the bad weather,contact with mobile
electricity board teams was lost but only in the areas where they had
switched to GSM,those still using MP1327 trunk net,comms were ok.

we had no power for some time,the lady at there control,had no idea who was
out working or where they were,she said there mobile phone network had been
knocked out by the bad weather in some areas.

you can use both systems,any pnc check should be done by mobile phone,but
for regular policing then just normal radio.

but make sure all specialist teams are secure

its a joke that in the UK special branch and royalty protection are using
analogue comms on freq they have used for years.




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"christophe" <christopheclark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> As is known BT Airwave have a contract to supply TETRA services to
> police in UK.As stated before the system is not secure,and handsets
> offer potentially serious RF hazards to users,as well as interfering
> with other electrical equipment nearby(eg breathalisers).We have not
> even mentioned the problem of putting up more base stations,with the
> consequent planning problems.
>
> Push to talk GSM/GPRS is a perfectly good solution,which is being used
> elsewhere.GSM is much more secure than TETRA(particularly the A5-2/3
> algorithms),which is important when handsets may well interrogate the
> PNC and other police computer systems,wirelessly.GPRS with push to
> talk will allow far better data upload/download than TETRA can
> provide,and the base station network already exists,in most areas.
>
> If you want to see how well TETRA has done in the UK,just look at
> Dolphin,the consumer TETRA service.It's losing lots of money for it's
> new owners!
>
> kevcat <KevAlone@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:<3F0AFA4A.9F01866E@dodo.com.au>...
> > why is that?
> > digital offers much more in the way of services, data and voice shared
> > on the one system
> >
> > the future is all digital
> >
> > Kev
> >
> > "jim.gm4dhj" wrote:
> > >
> > > Anything digital is crap.......
> > >
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Subject: Re: Major TETRA project ends in technical fiasco
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