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Re: Should Motherboard makers bundle Linux CD with every shipment?

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From: Tony Houghton
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:46
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DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:

> In message <+ghfq9AZs$aIFAO3@from.is.invalid> GSV Three Minds in a Can
> <GSV@quik.clara.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >Bitstring <fktn64ptvbpo5mg668u7h4gh5cpdetemkt@4ax.com>, from the 
> >wonderful person DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> said
> >>In message <dOPak.19614$E41.10901@text.news.virginmedia.com> 7
> >><website_has_email@www.enemygadgets.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Should Motherboard makers bundle Linux CD with every shipment?
> >>
> >>No.  I'd rather they not waste money on optical media containing
> >>crap I'll never touch.
> >
> >I think you mean 'MORE cr&p', given the amount they already deliver 
> >(typically nobbled &/or temporary versions, or games you didn't
> >want).
> 
> Ahh, but most of the temporary version crap is paid for by the
> manufacturer of the software, not the motherboard.  In other words, I
> don't pay for it.
> 
> I would pay the costs of throwing in some random garbage OS.

No, it's estimated you'd pay about 10p, which is negligible compared to
the motherboard. The cost of a garbage OS is anything from £10 to £200+
depending on whether you're trying to buy it or get a refund after
having it foisted on you.

> >Now if only they could arrange to ship PROPER, CURRENT drivers and
> >BIOS for the damn motherboard ....   Grrrr.
> 
> That's tough though, given that there is a non-trivial lead time to
> press CDs, combined with economy of scale.  in other words, it's not
> cost effective to order a one month supply of CDs, you're better off
> ordering a one year supply.
> 
> Personally what I'd like to see would be a single lightweight CD that
> only contains enough drivers to get the NIC up and running and connect
> to the net to pull updated drivers, then automate the process of
> detecting required drivers (at least for the motherboard, since it's
> components are known quantities), downloading and installing them.

I prefer to download the driver using a system that is net-capable and
either copy it onto the Windows drive/partition if it's Linux on the
same PC, or use a USB key if it isn't.

> Well actually maybe I wouldn't, since it would cut into my billable
> hours for newb PC builders.   But ya know.

Funny how so many people that rubbish Linux make a living by charging
for wasted time.

-- 
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk
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From: Tony Houghton <h@realh.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Should Motherboard makers bundle Linux CD with every shipment?
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