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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:50:11 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> spoke with words of wisdom or stupidity(delete
one) the following, :

>
>Anyone have any opinions on the Elitegroup K7S5A motherboard?  
>
>I'm considering this for a system upgrade (probably with an XP 1800+),
>to run Windows 2000, and this board seems to be getting good reviews.
>
>I want to re-use my Crucial PC133 SDRAM and don't want a VIA chipset.
>Stability and reliability are the most important factors.
>
>http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm


just put one in my new system, its going well good so far, I'll let
you know if any probs happen

--
"I'm so slippery that when the cops finally caught up
with me, there was only one thing they could do.

"They made me a cop..."

Has quite a high RMA rate by all accounts (quite a few dead on arrival), but
once working, superb value for money. You supposedly can't overclock on
these, but I am running an Athlon 1000@1380 (138*10) with a �5 heatsink, and
default voltage!

"Mike Tomlinson" <mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
news:XFym1zBDAzI8Ew7L@jasper.org.uk...
>
> Anyone have any opinions on the Elitegroup K7S5A motherboard?
>
> I'm considering this for a system upgrade (probably with an XP 1800+),
> to run Windows 2000, and this board seems to be getting good reviews.
>
> I want to re-use my Crucial PC133 SDRAM and don't want a VIA chipset.
> Stability and reliability are the most important factors.
>
> http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm
>
> --
>      Security-wise, NT is a server with a 'Kick me'
>      sign taped to it.         -- Peter Gutmann
>

"Mike Tomlinson" <mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
news:XFym1zBDAzI8Ew7L@jasper.org.uk...
>
> Anyone have any opinions on the Elitegroup K7S5A motherboard?
>
> I'm considering this for a system upgrade (probably with an XP 1800+),
> to run Windows 2000, and this board seems to be getting good reviews.
>
> I want to re-use my Crucial PC133 SDRAM and don't want a VIA chipset.
> Stability and reliability are the most important factors.
>
> http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm

The K7S6A which uses the SIS745 chipset is just round the corner.


--
Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps

> You supposedly can't overclock on
>these, but I am running an Athlon 1000@1380 (138*10) with a �5 heatsink, and
>default voltage!


how ?



--
"I'm so slippery that when the cops finally caught up
with me, there was only one thing they could do.

"They made me a cop..."

"Graham W" <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> wrote in message
news:MuSU7.3721$XN3.197094@wards...
>
> "Mike Tomlinson" <mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:XFym1zBDAzI8Ew7L@jasper.org.uk...
> >
> > Anyone have any opinions on the Elitegroup K7S5A motherboard?
> >
> > I'm considering this for a system upgrade (probably with an XP 1800+),
> > to run Windows 2000, and this board seems to be getting good reviews.
> >
> > I want to re-use my Crucial PC133 SDRAM and don't want a VIA chipset.
> > Stability and reliability are the most important factors.
> >
> > http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm
>
> The K7S6A which uses the SIS745 chipset is just round the corner.

There is always something new just around the corner in the computer world -
work on that basis and you would never buy anything!

Tony

"The Stainless Steel Rat" <stainless_steel_rat@ntl(spamtrap).com> wrote in
message news:dgu72u0c4ohp1hv4bpvbgidre6rhvsn4cg@4ax.com...
>
>
> > You supposedly can't overclock on
> >these, but I am running an Athlon 1000@1380 (138*10) with a �5 heatsink,
and
> >default voltage!
>
>
> how ?

Go to http://forum.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=4
download the following bioses (combined in one zip file) -
Official 010920 (without LAN) Official 010920 (with LAN)010911 (LAN and w/o
LAN, read readme.txt)
The zip file requires a password - it is "ocworkbench" (without speech
marks).  It contains two bioses ovk7s5a.rom and ovks75al.rom (the second one
is for the lan version of the board).  These provide additional fsb speeds
that can be set from bios.  I am running my 266fsb 1.1 gig athlon (x8.5
multiplier) at 150/150 fsb with memory (crucial DDR 2100) at 'ultra' setting
giving 1.275GHz and lightning fast speed.  This board is the best value for
money I ever had from a motherboard (and I've had quite a few).

Tony

In article <k8a72uc1i3fodomcs7d2fc2t13t3arm6do@4ax.com>, The Stainless
Steel Rat <stainless_steel_rat@ntl.com> writes

>just put one in my new system, its going well good so far, I'll let
>you know if any probs happen

Ta.  What OS are you using?

-- 
     Security-wise, NT is a server with a 'Kick me' 
     sign taped to it.         -- Peter Gutmann

In article <MuSU7.3721$XN3.197094@wards>, Graham W
<graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes

>The K7S6A which uses the SIS745 chipset is just round the corner.

Thanks.  SIS's website shows that the 745 has built-in Firewire and
support for DDR333 RAM, neither of which I need.  It appears identical
to the 735 otherwise.

-- 
     Security-wise, NT is a server with a 'Kick me' 
     sign taped to it.         -- Peter Gutmann

In article <OhkgciCetHJ8EwSn@jasper.org.uk>, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> writes

>Thanks.  SIS's website shows that the 745 has built-in Firewire and
>support for DDR333 RAM, neither of which I need.  It appears identical
>to the 735 otherwise.

(following up my own post - sorry)

The K7S6A supports DDR DIMMs only - SDRAM cannot be used.

-- 
     Security-wise, NT is a server with a 'Kick me' 
     sign taped to it.         -- Peter Gutmann

TMack writes

>There is always something new just around the corner in the computer world -
>work on that basis and you would never buy anything!

I know .....  :-(

OTOH it's cheaper?

-- 
Oz
This post is worth precisely what you paid for it.

>Go to http://forum.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=4
>download the following bioses (combined in one zip file) -
>Official 010920 (without LAN) Official 010920 (with LAN)010911 (LAN and w/o
>LAN, read readme.txt)
>The zip file requires a password - it is "ocworkbench" (without speech
>marks).  It contains two bioses ovk7s5a.rom and ovks75al.rom (the second one
>is for the lan version of the board).  These provide additional fsb speeds
>that can be set from bios.  I am running my 266fsb 1.1 gig athlon (x8.5
>multiplier) at 150/150 fsb with memory (crucial DDR 2100) at 'ultra' setting
>giving 1.275GHz and lightning fast speed.  This board is the best value for
>money I ever had from a motherboard (and I've had quite a few).
>
>Tony
>


oooh sounds scarry , i think I'l leave it , its got the newest BIOS
for XP on it now , don't want to ruin it as its only 4 days old and
I'm not to sure on flashing BIOS 
Thanks anyway much appreciated

--
"I'm so slippery that when the cops finally caught up
with me, there was only one thing they could do.

"They made me a cop..."

I have heard it will be about twice the price of the K7S5A
"Mike Tomlinson" <mike@NOSPAM.jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
news:i+gbb7CPHIJ8EwmM@jasper.org.uk...
> In article <OhkgciCetHJ8EwSn@jasper.org.uk>, Mike Tomlinson
> <mike@jasper.org.uk> writes
>
> >Thanks.  SIS's website shows that the 745 has built-in Firewire and
> >support for DDR333 RAM, neither of which I need.  It appears identical
> >to the 735 otherwise.
>
> (following up my own post - sorry)
>
> The K7S6A supports DDR DIMMs only - SDRAM cannot be used.
>
> --
>      Security-wise, NT is a server with a 'Kick me'
>      sign taped to it.         -- Peter Gutmann
>

I am using a 1Gig Axia Y Athlon. plus the overclockers bios for this board.

"The Stainless Steel Rat" <stainless_steel_rat@ntl(spamtrap).com> wrote in
message news:dgu72u0c4ohp1hv4bpvbgidre6rhvsn4cg@4ax.com...
>
>
> > You supposedly can't overclock on
> >these, but I am running an Athlon 1000@1380 (138*10) with a �5 heatsink,
and
> >default voltage!
>
>
> how ?
>
>
>
> --
> "I'm so slippery that when the cops finally caught up
> with me, there was only one thing they could do.
>
> "They made me a cop..."

I agree - I generally fall into this trap. I will wait a few months until
the price drops or a new fangled option comes out. But after waiting there's
an even better new fangled thingy-ma-bob coming out.

Decide on what you want and buy. The K7S5A seems to be a very good board for
the price. So unless you want to experiment with overclocking then buy one.
I have ordered one and am waiting delivery.



"TMack" <tonymackin@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:a01mte$i7qob$1@ID-67499.news.dfncis.de...
>
> "Graham W" <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> wrote in message
> news:MuSU7.3721$XN3.197094@wards...
> >
> > "Mike Tomlinson" <mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:XFym1zBDAzI8Ew7L@jasper.org.uk...
> > >
> > > Anyone have any opinions on the Elitegroup K7S5A motherboard?
> > >
> > > I'm considering this for a system upgrade (probably with an XP 1800+),
> > > to run Windows 2000, and this board seems to be getting good reviews.
> > >
> > > I want to re-use my Crucial PC133 SDRAM and don't want a VIA chipset.
> > > Stability and reliability are the most important factors.
> > >
> > > http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm
> >
> > The K7S6A which uses the SIS745 chipset is just round the corner.
>
> There is always something new just around the corner in the computer
world -
> work on that basis and you would never buy anything!
>
> Tony
>
>

"Mike Tomlinson" <mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
news:XFym1zBDAzI8Ew7L@jasper.org.uk...
>
> Anyone have any opinions on the Elitegroup K7S5A motherboard?
>
> I'm considering this for a system upgrade (probably with an XP 1800+),
> to run Windows 2000, and this board seems to be getting good reviews.
>
> I want to re-use my Crucial PC133 SDRAM and don't want a VIA chipset.
> Stability and reliability are the most important factors.
>
> http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm
>
> --
>      Security-wise, NT is a server with a 'Kick me'
>      sign taped to it.         -- Peter Gutmann

I did a system with the Elite K7S5A recently.
Good except the onboard audio
Fine with wav's, rmi's, mid's and audio cd's but sound quality from any game
cd is very poor!

Any ideas?

I couldn't get my on board sound to work with this board at all. In the end
the shop I bought the board from told me that the on board sound would not
work with windows ME & gave me a separate sound card.

Is this right or did these guys just not know how to fix the problem?

John.

> I did a system with the Elite K7S5A recently.
> Good except the onboard audio
> Fine with wav's, rmi's, mid's and audio cd's but sound quality from any
game
> cd is very poor!
>
> Any ideas?



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Have no problems running onboard sound with ME. Ran clean straight out of
the box, replacing a dead K7VZA. Windows had it's normal heart attack when
presented with a new board, but installed everything. I assume you installed
all the drivers off the CD.

Cliff


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I did, & according to the pc everything sound related was up & running &
working as it should do.
Unfortunately according to my ears I knew all was not well.............
As it turned out, I couldn't sort it, neither could the shop so they gave me
a separte sound card foc which although didn't fix the problem, neatly got
round it.

John.

"Cliff Tinson" <cliff_tinson@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:3c2b86b8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> Have no problems running onboard sound with ME. Ran clean straight out of
> the box, replacing a dead K7VZA. Windows had it's normal heart attack when
> presented with a new board, but installed everything. I assume you
installed
> all the drivers off the CD.
>
> Cliff
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/2001
>
>


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 19/12/2001

"Cliff Tinson" <cliff_tinson@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:3c2b86b8_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
>
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/2001

Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your posts.


--
Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps

In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
<graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
>--
>Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
>WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
>Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
>
Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
posts
-- 
Paul B

Paul <paul@PaulBrewer.org> said the following:
>In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
><graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
>>--
>>Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
>>WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
>>Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
>>
>Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
>posts

Seems a perfectly acceptable .sig to me - unless u.c.h has a charter
which prohibits .sig files.
-- 
Spammers Christmas Present
        http://www.namgalsipsclar.fsnet.co.uk

"Paul" <paul@PaulBrewer.org> wrote in message
news:R3a86JAwcDL8EwhI@clara.net...
> In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
> <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
> >--
> >Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
> >WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
> >Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
> >
> Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
> posts

What will you give me for it?

About 100 people a week find something interesting there.

Whereas the proponent of that out-of-date virus signature is advising
people, falsely, that his emails are safe to open and that he, therefore,
should be regarded as a trusted source, which could not be further
from the truth.

It is irrelevant because it does not apply to newsgroup posts anyway.

Happy New Year Paul.

--
Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps

In article <0eyZ2XCE7EL8Ew2i@soddit.pkuatb.net>, Pedt <abuse@pkuatb.net>
writes
>Paul <paul@PaulBrewer.org> said the following:
>>In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
>><graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
>>>--
>>>Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
>>>WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
>>>Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
>>>
>>Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
>>posts
>
>Seems a perfectly acceptable .sig to me - unless u.c.h has a charter
>which prohibits .sig files.

I was merely commenting on his sig, since he had a dig at some bloke who
had an AVG sig on his posts.
-- 
Paul B

In article <YcZW7.4870$Jm.271138@stones>, Graham W
<graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
>
>"Paul" <paul@PaulBrewer.org> wrote in message
>news:R3a86JAwcDL8EwhI@clara.net...
>> In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
>> <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
>> >--
>> >Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
>> >WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
>> >Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
>> >
>> Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
>> posts
>
>What will you give me for it?
>
>About 100 people a week find something interesting there.
>
>Whereas the proponent of that out-of-date virus signature is advising
>people, falsely, that his emails are safe to open and that he, therefore,
>should be regarded as a trusted source, which could not be further
>from the truth.
>
>It is irrelevant because it does not apply to newsgroup posts anyway.
>
>Happy New Year Paul.
>
Who are you to say what is irrelevant or not in a sig which conforms to
usenet etiquette?

ISTR newsgroup posts can carry viruses, anyway. Although I agree that he
should update his vdf to Grisoft's current on.

Happy new year to you, too.
-- 
Paul B          Who was once woken from his sleep by Patrick Moore in
                order to go and look at Jupiter.
                Winchester 1971

"Paul" <paul@PaulBrewer.org> wrote in message
news:mzoxbtA4iHL8EwmW@clara.net...
> In article <YcZW7.4870$Jm.271138@stones>, Graham W
> <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
> >
> >"Paul" <paul@PaulBrewer.org> wrote in message
> >news:R3a86JAwcDL8EwhI@clara.net...
> >> In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
> >> <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
> >> >--
> >> >Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics
Tutorial
> >> >WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
> >> >Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites &
Maps
> >> >
> >> Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
> >> posts
> >
> >What will you give me for it?
> >
> >About 100 people a week find something interesting there.
> >
> >Whereas the proponent of that out-of-date virus signature is advising
> >people, falsely, that his emails are safe to open and that he, therefore,
> >should be regarded as a trusted source, which could not be further
> >from the truth.
> >
> >It is irrelevant because it does not apply to newsgroup posts anyway.
> >
> >Happy New Year Paul.
> >
> Who are you to say what is irrelevant or not in a sig which conforms to
> usenet etiquette?

It is irrelevant because it only certifies email not newsgroup posts.

But does it conform?  I'd say it was a close call to being an oft repeated
piece of commercial advertising on behalf of a third party.

There is no way that any AV software can claim to protect a
system once the vdf (virus definition file) is more than 24 hours
old.  Never mind the 18 July 2001 vdf of the one I complained
about.

>...to go and look at Jupiter. Winchester 1971

If you have clear skies over the next week or so, Jupiter and Saturn
will be escorting Orion across the south-east skies (22:00 GMT).
And tonight and tomorrow only, they will flank the Moon with Jupiter
on the left and Saturn on the right, high in the sky.


--
Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics Tutorial
WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps

"Graham W" <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> wrote in message news:<1D2X7.4589$XN3.245392@wards>...
> "Paul" <paul@PaulBrewer.org> wrote in message
> news:mzoxbtA4iHL8EwmW@clara.net...
> > In article <YcZW7.4870$Jm.271138@stones>, Graham W
> > <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
> > >
> > >"Paul" <paul@PaulBrewer.org> wrote in message
> > >news:R3a86JAwcDL8EwhI@clara.net...
> > >> In article <dDRW7.4850$Jm.269611@stones>, Graham W
> > >> <graham@gcw.org.ukINVALID> writes
> > >> >--
> > >> >Graham W   http://www.gcw.org.uk/ DIY Astro Projects, Graphics
>  Tutorial
> > >> >WIMBORNE   http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex
> > >> >Dorset UK  Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites &
>  Maps
> > >> >
> > >> Please take this silly and irrelevant notice off the bottom of your
> > >> posts
> > >
> > >What will you give me for it?
> > >
> > >About 100 people a week find something interesting there.
> > >
> > >Whereas the proponent of that out-of-date virus signature is advising
> > >people, falsely, that his emails are safe to open and that he, therefore,
> > >should be regarded as a trusted source, which could not be further
> > >from the truth.
> > >
> > >It is irrelevant because it does not apply to newsgroup posts anyway.
> > >
> > >Happy New Year Paul.
> > >
> > Who are you to say what is irrelevant or not in a sig which conforms to
> > usenet etiquette?
> 
> It is irrelevant because it only certifies email not newsgroup posts.
> 
> But does it conform?  I'd say it was a close call to being an oft repeated
> piece of commercial advertising on behalf of a third party.
> 
> There is no way that any AV software can claim to protect a
> system once the vdf (virus definition file) is more than 24 hours
> old.  Never mind the 18 July 2001 vdf of the one I complained
> about.
> 
> >...to go and look at Jupiter. Winchester 1971
> 
> If you have clear skies over the next week or so, Jupiter and Saturn
> will be escorting Orion across the south-east skies (22:00 GMT).
> And tonight and tomorrow only, they will flank the Moon with Jupiter
> on the left and Saturn on the right, high in the sky.

Please stay on topic - I'm sure those interested in astronomy or
anti-virus software can find an appropriate ng - your farting on about
them here is an unwelcome distraction.

In article <87177ef4.0112281336.615829e3@posting.google.com>, Britannica
<britannica@freeuk.com> writes

<snip>

>Please stay on topic - I'm sure those interested in astronomy or
>anti-virus software can find an appropriate ng - your farting on about
>them here is an unwelcome distraction.


The same could be said of your failure to snip 52-odd lines of
'unwelcome distraction'





-- 
Tim Puffett

Tim Puffett <tim@storm996.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<H9FhSxDjEyL8EwzN@storm996.freeserve.co.uk>...
> In article <87177ef4.0112281336.615829e3@posting.google.com>, Britannica
> <britannica@freeuk.com> writes
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >Please stay on topic - I'm sure those interested in astronomy or
> >anti-virus software can find an appropriate ng - your farting on about
> >them here is an unwelcome distraction.
> 
> 
> The same could be said of your failure to snip 52-odd lines of
> 'unwelcome distraction'

True - but that was deliberate...to illustrate my point. It's the
seemingly unconcious wandering from the mundane matter of an Elite
motherboard to the outer reaches of the solar system that I found
irritating. Particularly as I am interested in opinions about this
board.

My best wishes for a happy (and properous - if prosperity is necessary
for your well-being) New Year to everyone.

Britannica