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Re: courtesy titles

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From: Richard Tobin
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:21
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In article <10100@purr.demon.co.uk>,
bogus address <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> According to the Jargon File, it began in 1969, started
>> TCP/IP in 82 and DNS in 83, so why is this so odd?

>What site in the UK could access it that early?  JANET couldn't.
>Some services (like Usenet or email) could run via gateways to
>the ARPANET (precursor of the Internet), but that was all.

Yes, I think people in the UK using it that early would have been
doing so via relays such as nsfnet-relay and the one at ISI.  We were
certainly doing that for FTP in 1983.

>Some time in the late 1980s?  1987 maybe?  A few UK sites got on the
>ARPANET before the Internet as such was set up.

Unfortunately there was for a long time a policy of not using anything
in universities except the Janet protocols and, later, ISO protocols
such as FTAM.

When I complained about the lack of an interactive FTP service on
Janet I was told "FTP is the canonical non-interactive task".  The
idea that you might need to look around to find what you needed seemed
completely alien to them.

These policies were finally abandoned at about the time when we would
have started running SLIP or similar and just using Janet as a
point-to-point network to have ad-hoc internet connections between
universities.

-- Richard
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From: richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin)
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Subject: Re: courtesy titles
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