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Article #1088Re: Society's access to source code (was Re: KDE v. Gnome)
From: jedi
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:00
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:31:12 GMT, msissom@dnaent.com <msissom@dnaent.com> wrote: >On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:52:36 +0100, Simon Kinahan <simonk@cadence.com> >wrote: > >>msissom@dnaent.com wrote: >>> >1) Anybody has the basic right to sell their software for money and >>> >withold the code, provided that the software is fully functional and >>> >entirely bug-free. >>> >>> There will never be any 'commercial code' released if it must >>> satisfy so generic a qualification. No other product must satisfy >>> this qualification, why should software? >> >>It does doesn't it ? There is are 'IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY >>AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE' to quote from the GPL. Software >>licenses always contain this clause disavowing such warranties, even though >>legally this is hogwash. To actual enforce these warranties on software >>companies would put most of them out business, since all software (without >>exception) in unfit for the intended purpose in one way or another. >> >>This is *precisely* the problem. With current model of software copyright >>there is no way software companies could uphold such warranties. > >Nonsense, without even resorting to legalsleaze hair splitting, there >are faults in every product available on every market. You expect a >perfect product from one particular industry even though you happily >accept imperfection in every other product that you purchase. People seldom tolerate the level of poor quality present in the software market in any other area. People simply know better and know that they can and should expect better with no technophobia or anti-intellectuallisms to hinder their exploration and understanding of the subject. ...a ceo of one of the Detroit auto makers summed it up quite nicely in a retort to one of the software ceos... > >Straighten up. Either apply your ideals everywhere, or admit that >Eden doesn't exist and find a viable compromise. I'm all for the >second. I only expect the *same* from software manufacturers that >I expect from the manufacturers of other products. I don't expect >perfection from anyone. > -- Empowerment implies having the power to do for yourself what needs done and the necessary confidence to try. ||| Crutches do not bring empowerment; they only encourage / | \ the opposite. You are the thinking machine & quite capapble of much more than you may realize. In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4bda,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bda,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: 1103af,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid1103af,public X-Google-Thread: 10d8ad,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d8ad,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public From: jedi@dementia.mishnet () Subject: Re: Society's access to source code (was Re: KDE v. Gnome) Date: 1998/10/13 Message-ID: <slrn72705d.kv3.jedi@dementia.mishnet> X-Deja-AN: 400669293 References: <FWc39EA3TLD2Ewp3@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <6uipd0$oj8$1@winter.news.erols.com> <87zpbmkhdn.fsf@ivm.de> <kbCveHAOyWD2EwdN@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <Pine.SOL.3.91.980927140803.10597B-100000@howard> <m3af3knl8m.fsf@c26469-a.clnvl1.ct.home.com> <6up86o$t23$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <9nQpxDAYqKE2EwlY@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <6v0oet$avl$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <OHkl5KAObKF2EwIy@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <yq3ogrvc6kb.fsf_-_@nasrullah.tchden.org> <x7Yq2RA8iWF2Ewt$@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <F0ArHE.1M9@a2e.de> <3619aba5.1445375@news.netcologne.de> <361a5b27.611486871@news.onramp.net> <36234D14.8023B70C@cadence.com> <3623712e.519090112@news.onramp.net> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Trace: 908296994 PLBOPJC1P1FA118EAC usenet57.supernews.com Organization: http://www.supernews.com, The World's Usenet: Discussions Start Here Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss