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Article #1121Re: KDE v. Gnome
From: M O'Neill
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:00
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On Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:48:33 +0100, Simon Kinahan <simonk@cadence.com> wrote: >Jason Clifford wrote: >> In article <6v3328$jfu$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, Bill Unruh >> <unruh@physics.ubc.ca> wrote [ a description of scheme involving reduced >> length of copyright ] >> >> You are simply trying to claim rights to other people's work. > >And fair enough I say. Copyright is not an inalienable right. There is no >universal agreement that copying other people's work is bad. All of >science, and a considerable amount of engineering, including that of >software, is based on copying and modification of other people's ideas. The >distinction between that and the copying of actaul source text seems to me >to only be one of enforcability. > >I agree completely that the inventors of software deserve to benefit >materially from their work, but I would contend that no perfect solution to >the problem of intellectual property and software has yet been found. Many >patents have been granted for software 'inventions' that clearly do not >meet the criteria of novelty, due to work already in the public domain, or >which is being simultaneously invented elsewhere, or which is blatantly >straightforward. > >Copyright has a more subtle problem. By placing the binaries and source for >a piece of software under a traditional copyright you not only grant the >creator a monopoly on the distribution of the software, but also, because >binaries are basically incomprehensible to humans, a monopoly over its >maintainance, repair and modification. This is equivalent (*in* *effect*) >to a car manufacturer forcing you to go to their garages to have your car >repaired, something generally agreed to be legally dubious. I'd say that >this is a more extensive monopoly than copyright law is intended to grant. > >Open Source software is an attempt to fix that problem. It is an attempt >that has worked out pretty well so far, so talking about modifying >copyright law to make it easier or more profitable does not seem absurd to >me. > >Simon Simon I think you make some good points. A lot of this discussion seems to ignore that making the source code available and allowing others to exploit it commercially are two different things. I also agree that the laws haven't yet struck the right balance in determining what protection to give to software.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1103af,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid1103af,public X-Google-Thread: 10d8ad,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d8ad,public X-Google-Thread: f4bda,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bda,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public From: darrow@oneillaw.com (M O'Neill) Subject: Re: KDE v. Gnome Date: 1998/10/11 Message-ID: <36212340.1605787@news.concentric.net> X-Deja-AN: 400042396 References: <qj78u6.mf.ln@wog.interlog.com> <m3af3knl8m.fsf@c26469-a.clnvl1.ct.home.com> <m3n27fn72a.fsf@c26469-a.clnvl1.ct.home.com> <6v1gjr$3ao$1@Mercury.mcs.net> <6v3328$jfu$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <KLkk6OAPeWF2Ewou@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <361E2241.806FCBA3@cadence.com> Organization: Concentric Internet Services Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss