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seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) writes:

>In article <F0oCx2.756@a2e.de>, PILCH Hartmut <phm@a2e.de> wrote:
>>I don't understand your solution at all.  The Market clearly decides that
>>it wants closed monopolistic software and doesn't give a damn about source
>>code.

>This would explain why Apache, although a noble effort, was completely
>ignored in favor of things like Netscape's server, or Microsoft's.

How much turnover, how much profit, how many share dividends did Apache
generate?

On the Market, Apache is not existant.  This is why a company here told me
"we don't want Apache, we want the market leader, i.e. IIS".  They don't
care about whether 60% of the servers run Apache.  The market leader is
the one who generates the profit and pays the largest marketing army.

>>When speaking about The Market, you can't be referring to any real
>>existing markets at least.

>This coming from someone who claims that markets always select for closed
>software?

Name me the open source software products that have generated profits and
dividends.  Support-service profits don't count, because they could have
been rendered by people who didn't create the product.  Now add upt this sum
of 0$ + 0$ + 0$, multiply it by the number of users and calculate the share
open source software has in a x $ 100,000,000 $ software market.  (even
if the market was only $ 100, the value of open source in it would be
the same).

>Street music funding seems fairly capitalist to me.  No one has to pay,
>no one has to provide, if people want to, they can exchange goods on whatever
>terms are convenient to them.

Street music listeners needn't pay to get the good.
This is why in some cultures (e.g. China), street musicians are traditionally
seen as despectable beggars.
They are certainly closer to beggars than to capitalists.
I had quite a good life as a street musician 15 years ago, though, and
I wish authors of free software could have that chance.

>The market is *very* much for open source, it's just not instantaneous.

Market economy tends to come together with a society that is liberal
enough to allow beggars to exist, as long as they don't proliferate too
much.  For dealing with the latter case it has devices like patent law.

--
Hartmut Pilch
http://www.a2e.de/phm/