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Re: KDE v. Gnome

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From: Anders Wegge Jakobsen
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:00
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 On Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:29:22 +0100, Jason Clifford <jason@dlsl.demon.co.uk> said:

JC> In article <m31zoodpd3.fsf@obelix.wegge.dk>, Anders Wegge Jakobsen
JC> <wegge@wegge.dk> writes
>> You've read some pretty weak licenses then. Most, if not all, of
>> those I've become aquainted with, has tried to remove my right to
>> modify/debug/dechiper the given product.

JC> Remove your right? You never had any right to he software in the
JC> first place. The licnese specifically grants you such rights as
JC> you may have.

 Yes, my *right* to decide how, given a set of circumstances, I want
to perform a task. This *is* a basic human right. 

>>  Not quite. The margin notes in the book are in a form that is
>> readablke by the same means and at the same time as the book is
>> read, ie. used. The typical EULA tries to remove any such right of
>> modifications, including such trivial changes as change hardcoded
>> path settings with a hex-editor.

JC> You are NOT entitles to make changes to the content of a book
JC> (ie. the copyright material). Writing to the margins does not
JC> constitute such a change. SImilarly you are free to write whatever
JC> you wish to the MEDIA upon which software is distributed but not
JC> to the software unless speciically permitted by the license

 That's precisely what I'm not allowed to. I might be allowed to erase
the entire media, and then use it as I see fit, but that's quite
different from the scribbled notes in the margin pf a book. I think
that you overlooked the key phrase: "by the same means, and at the
same time". 

-- 
/Wegge
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From: Anders Wegge Jakobsen <wegge@wegge.dk>
Subject: Re: KDE v. Gnome
Date: 1998/10/05
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