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Article #1794Re: KDE v. Gnome
From: Bill Unruh
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:00
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In <m3af3knl8m.fsf@c26469-a.clnvl1.ct.home.com> Decklin Foster <decklin@base.org> writes: >> If someone has a great idea for a software product and proceeds to >> realise that idea, his rights to that are absolutely enforcable. So you feel that there should only be STarbucks selling coffee in any city? Or only one laundry company? After all they had an idea and they should therefor have the absolute right to realise that idea? Why should society not grant everyone monopoly rights? After all that was how the USSR worked and we know the great success they had in delivering cheap goods to their consumers. Why should not Ford be able to enforce their monopolistic right to sell cars? After all, every car that GM sells is taking money directly out of Ford's pocket. They have lost billions because of GM's unconscionable actions. (That is irony for those who have trouble with taking things too literally). Why should not the competitive model (which many in the US claim great allegiance to, at least when it is someone elses product they want to use) be applied in all its glory to software as to laundry? Both copyright and patents are monoply rights handed to people by society. Such rights should be granted only if the return to society of that grant outweighs the costs to society. At present, you have a bunch of rich people subverting the law making process to increase their own monopolistic profits without any calculation as to what society actually gains from granting such monopolies (and also demanding that the taxpayer assume the expense of enforcing those monopolies.) The usual argument is that if such monopolies were not granted then people would cease to produce things like software. But if that is the excuse, why does free software exist? (Linux et al). And why in the world is a 70 year monopoly granted in the case of software (the copyright time limit). Surely a much better model would be to grant say a 3 year monopoly, with say a further 3 years if the source code were published. That way at least society would get something out of the deal. Why should society not drive a hard bargain in exchange for such monopoly rights, rather than acting as though the software companies had the right to a monopoly? (Remember the USA went through this whole exercise in the 19th century when the railroads managed to persuade the governments that granting them monopolies was in the best interests of the nation. It was finally realised that it was actually in the best interests of the monopoly holders and not of the society at large.)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1103af,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid1103af,public X-Google-Thread: f4bda,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bda,public X-Google-Thread: 10d8ad,4460b3faefba3773 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d8ad,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,942a0596db2b8174 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (Bill Unruh) Subject: Re: KDE v. Gnome Date: 1998/09/29 Message-ID: <6up86o$t23$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> X-Deja-AN: 395808075 References: <qj78u6.mf.ln@wog.interlog.com> <p5sohihlrc.fsf@baynetworks.com> <Pine.SOL.3.91.980923105630.13773B-100000@howard> <slrn70ic1k.97.homer_j_simpson@donut.dhis.org> <6uc2pk$jh1$5@blue.hex.net> <873e9hret2.fsf@ivm.de> <6ufkfu$o96$1@taliesin.netcom.net.uk> <87sohgzh44.fsf@ivm.de> <FWc39EA3TLD2Ewp3@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <6uipd0$oj8$1@winter.news.erols.com> <87zpbmkhdn.fsf@ivm.de> <kbCveHAOyWD2EwdN@dlsl.demon.co.uk> <Pine.SOL.3.91.980927140803.10597B-100000@howard> <slrn70t95p.ub.jedi@dementia.mis <m3af3knl8m.fsf@c26469-a.clnvl1.ct.home.com> Organization: The University of British Columbia Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss