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Article #333Re: Hardware for new Linux box
From: Oz
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:00
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In article <slrn8386n3.e4.piglet@pigsty.td.micromuse.co.uk>, Tim Haynes <piglet@glutinous.custard.org> writes >Yup, I'd admit to being relatively pedantic, but *how* does one determine >whether it's speed that affects temperature *or* the other way round, in a >given case? (Other than, say, it being you wiggling the thermostat, sort of >thing!) Very simple. See how fast you can run an 8MHz 8086 as you decrease the temperature. You will find there is a maximum rate and that this is very little affected by temperature simply because the switching speed of the components limits the maximum clock speed. This is an n-mos chip (ie NOT cmos) so the dissipation does not tend to zero as the clockspeed tends to zero. You might like to try an early cmos processor (some 486's IIRC, and notebook 386's) and compare dissipation (ie current consumption) vs clock speed where you will find that dissipation is approximately proportional to clockspeed. In this case it will be very clear that it's clock speed that *causes* temperature elevation and not temperature that permits higher clockspeeds. Really it's only been recent chips that have dissipated enough for the package dissipation to be a limiting factor in the permittable maximum clockspeed. Hence the use of lower core voltages in an effort to restrict dissipation at any given clockspeed (because dissipation is roughly proportional to supply voltage). -- Oz
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