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In article <MPG.129e09e421382f1e9896d5@horizon.co.uk>, {R}@sunshine.tm writes:
|> In article <3833dc8c.0@nnrp1.news.uk.psi.net>, 
|> andy+news@DELETE.pteron.demon.co.ME.uk says...
|> 
|> }I suggest you look at the address Dave writes from. ST is a 
|> }semiconductor manufacturer. I am a semiconductor designer and
|> }fully agree with Dave.
|> 
|> I suggest you consider and address the original statement that a Celeron 
|> 300A which was, as explained, an Intel marketing ploy.

This may have been the original statement, but, as often happens on this kind of 
thing, this is not the statement that I was referring to.

|> The Celeron 300A was marked as 300MHz but had a choice of bus speeds 
|> 66MHz and 100MHz, it will overclock to 450Mhz simply by setting the Bus 
|> speed to 100 and the internal multiplier to 1.5.

This may be true.  I never claimed it to be true or false.  The statement that
I responded to was the claim that the only reason for extra cooling in an
overclocked machine was to stop it overheating.

|> Then some know it all, without any research into this specific issue, 
|> comes along and says "overclocking is wrong" [or similar].

I never said that overclocking was wrong.  In fact, I said that you *can* 
overclock a device, provided that you keep it cold enough.  However, overclocking
can be risky, as it depends on the quality of the device that you get, as well as
the temperature.  The device that you are overclocking may be one that has
been derated due to commercial reasons (they are making too many of the faster 
devices), or it may be a lower-spec device.  Obviously, a device that has
been commercially derated is better, but you are taking a gamble about what
you get.

Personally, I don't overclock, as I don't need the extra CPU power (I run on a
DX2-66, by the way...).  Overclocking is a personal choice, and is a tradeoff 
between the advantages of more CPU power, and the risk of damaging your CPU and/
or data corruption.  Some people choose to overclock, just as some people choose
to drive fast.  Others don't overclock, like some people drive to speed limits.

|> Please go and find out the facts before making judgements.

Please look at what people wrote before slagging them off.  If these comments
were not aimed at me, then I apologise; I've been working too hard...

|> Do not "silicon designers" dislike overclocking for commercial reasons or 
|> do you just make false tits.

<g>.

I think you're confusing us with "silicone designers".  There are enough tits
around without us having to make false ones... :-)

Intel probably dislike overclocking, because it reduces their revenue.  (or maybe
they like it because people have to buy new chips when they overclock their old
ones too far...)

As far as I am concerned, I don't care.  The devices we make here (in Bristol)
are for embedded systems, and the clock speed is generally defined by the 
customer.  I'd like to see what happens if someone tries to overclock the 
CPU inside their Sky Digibox...

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