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Started by John Winters
Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: John Winters
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
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I did a really stupid thing at the end of Friday. I've been running a
RH 5.0 system (plus security patches) for some time and I finally decided
to upgrade it to RH 5.2. Won't take more than a couple of hours I
thought - wrong.
Part way through the upgrade the /usr partition filled up - something the
Red Hat installation/upgrade process doesn't handle well (indeed, doesn't
handle at all). I was left with a bootable but non-functional system.
After a lot of hard thinking I drew up a plan to back up all the
configuration data to /home, then re-install 5.2 from scratch re-formatting
/,/usr and /var. For the most part I got it right and only had to retrieve
a couple of things from tape, but I'm left with two outstanding major
problems.
I use ISDN to connect to Demon, and previously I was running a patched
2.0.32 kernel and using isdn4k-utils version 2.0. The 2.0.36 kernel
with RH5.2 already has the ISDN stuff in it, but it doesn't come with
the utilities. The documentation with the kernel source says that the
correct version of the utilities is 2.0, but they won't compile with
that version of the kernel. (IIOCGETSET and IIOCSETSET have been marked
as obsolete and removed. The 2.0 utilities use these ioctl codes.)
I found a pre-compiled version of the utilities, in RPM form for RH 5.2
and identified as isdn4k-utils-9803020842-1. These do work with the 2.0.36
kernel but the ipppd included in that package won't talk to Demon. It
connects and then gives an error message -
Unsupported protocol: Internet Protocol Control Protocol (0x8021)
and hangs up again. (Actually, I think it's the Demon end which hangs
up.) I've managed to get a Heath-Robinson connection going by using the
pre-compiled utilities (not something I like doing but I couldn't get
in touch else) and the old (compiled for 2.0.32) copy of ipppd.
The oddity I have remaining is that ipppd won't dial or hang up without
an explicit instruction - "isdnctrl dial ipp0". Auto-dial just doesn't
happen and despite the hang-up timeout being set to 120 seconds the link
doesn't hang up automatically from my end. Demon's end eventually hangs
it up if I don't do a manual disconnect.
Can anyone point me to a proper version of isdn4k-utils which is compatible
with the ISDN stuff in 2.0.36 please? Also some pointers on why auto-dial
has stopped working would be helpful.
My other big problem is with Majordomo (1.94.4). It was running before,
but now despite re-instating the aliases, any messages sent to it generate
the error message "unknown mailer error 9". The majordomo test scripts
report that the installation is fine (IME they always do this regardless
of how many configuration errors there are), and turning debugging on
produces no useful information.
(The majordomo installation is on /usr/local which was not touched by the
re-installation of the OS. I've reinstated the majordomo user and group
and set up the aliases again.)
Thanks in advance for any help
John
--
John Winters. Wallingford, Oxon, England.
The Linux Emporium - a source for Linux CDs in the UK
See <http://www.polo.demon.co.uk/emporium.html>
Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: Paul Black
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
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john@polo.demon.co.uk (John Winters)John Winters wrote: > Can anyone point me to a proper version of isdn4k-utils which is compatible > with the ISDN stuff in 2.0.36 please? The version I'm running with comes from a file called isdn4k-utils-3.0beta1.tar.gz. Can't rememeber where I got it from but if you want, I can mail it to you (it's 2MB!). Paul
Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: John Winters
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
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In article <36E281E8.6C6DC17F@canix.co.uk>, Paul Black <paul@canix.co.uk> wrote: >john@polo.demon.co.uk (John Winters)John Winters wrote: >> Can anyone point me to a proper version of isdn4k-utils which is compatible >> with the ISDN stuff in 2.0.36 please? > >The version I'm running with comes from a file called >isdn4k-utils-3.0beta1.tar.gz. Can't rememeber where I got it >from but if you want, I can mail it to you (it's 2MB!). Yes please. (I tried to send this by e-mail but couldn't get DNS to resolve "canix.co.uk". John -- John Winters. Wallingford, Oxon, England. The Linux Emporium - a source for Linux CDs in the UK See <http://www.polo.demon.co.uk/emporium.html>
Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: Jason Clifford
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:00
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On 7 Mar 1999, John Winters wrote: > Part way through the upgrade the /usr partition filled up - something the > Red Hat installation/upgrade process doesn't handle well (indeed, doesn't > handle at all). Yes a major failing with Red Hat is that you must ensure that there is plenty of space on /usr but there is no indicator of how much you need. I expect that Red Hat 6.0 will fix this and I am working on changin the installation of Definite Linux to address this as well. > My other big problem is with Majordomo (1.94.4). I found that majordomo stopped working altogether after upgrading to Red Hat 5.2 from 5.1. Nothing I could do (including correcting file ownerships that were already correct and recreating the majordomo user) would fix the problem. In the end I decided to simply backup the lists and reinstall majordomo (1.94.4-6) which sorted the problem out and only took 5 minutes to do. WRT your ISDN problems I am about to build a new RPM for Red Hat with all the most up to date isdn4k stuff. Hopefully I will have this completed and available tomorrow morning as I am only allowed to `work' for another 30 minutes before my wife will start hitting me with a big stick and shouting about getting away from computers.;-) Jason Clifford Definite Linux Systems http://definite.ukpost.com/
Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: Jason Clifford
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 00:00
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On 7 Mar 1999, John Winters wrote: > >> Can anyone point me to a proper version of isdn4k-utils which is compatible > >> with the ISDN stuff in 2.0.36 please? > > > >The version I'm running with comes from a file called > >isdn4k-utils-3.0beta1.tar.gz. Can't rememeber where I got it > >from but if you want, I can mail it to you (it's 2MB!). > > Yes please. (I tried to send this by e-mail but couldn't get DNS to > resolve "canix.co.uk". I have just completed building RPMS from the latest isdn4k-utils source, dated 3/3/99. If you are still without a working isdn4k-utils solution let me know and I will give you access to my ftp server to grab a copy. I am rolling this into Definite Linux for a new release due immediately upon release of 2.2.3 by Linus which should be R.S.N. Jason Clifford Definite Linux Systems http://definite.ukpost.com/
Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: James Youngman
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:00
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john@polo.demon.co.uk (John Winters) writes: > Yes please. (I tried to send this by e-mail but couldn't get DNS to > resolve "canix.co.uk". FWIW, this works OK here:- ;; ANSWER SECTION: canix.co.uk. 1D IN MX 20 ns0.twso.co.uk. canix.co.uk. 1D IN MX 10 ns0.entertainers.net. ;; ANSWER SECTION: ns0.entertainers.net. 1d22h34m57s IN A 194.205.25.65 # ping 194.205.25.65 PING 194.205.25.65 (194.205.25.65): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 194.205.25.65: icmp_seq=0 ttl=59 time=222.4 ms 64 bytes from 194.205.25.65: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=189.9 ms # cat /etc/resolv.conf search demon.co.uk nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 158.152.1.43 nameserver 158.152.1.58 -- ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet
Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: Alex Butcher
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:00
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On 7 Mar 1999 14:15:32 -0000, John Winters <john@polo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <36E281E8.6C6DC17F@canix.co.uk>,
>Paul Black <paul@canix.co.uk> wrote:
>>john@polo.demon.co.uk (John Winters)John Winters wrote:
>>> Can anyone point me to a proper version of isdn4k-utils which is compatible
>>> with the ISDN stuff in 2.0.36 please?
>>
>>The version I'm running with comes from a file called
>>isdn4k-utils-3.0beta1.tar.gz. Can't rememeber where I got it
>>from but if you want, I can mail it to you (it's 2MB!).
>
>Yes please. (I tried to send this by e-mail but couldn't get DNS to
>resolve "canix.co.uk".
Just a reminder that http://ftpsearch.lycos.com can be a godsend at times like
this.
>John
Best Regards,
Alex.
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Alex Butcher Using Linux since '95 - because windows are too easy to break.
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Re: A bad Friday and a worse weekend - help needed
Author: Jason Clifford
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:00
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On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Alex Butcher wrote: > >>The version I'm running with comes from a file called > >>isdn4k-utils-3.0beta1.tar.gz. Can't rememeber where I got it > >>from but if you want, I can mail it to you (it's 2MB!). > > Just a reminder that http://ftpsearch.lycos.com can be a godsend at times like > this. For anyone else looking for ISDN utilities for Red Hat Linux 5.2 (or any derivitives) I have build the isdn-utils package from the latest source and put it together with isdn4net and the isdnadmin linuxconf module so that you can set up your ISDN connections in linuxconf which looks quite nice and easy (you need the latest linuxconf) Let me know if you want these and I will give you access to my ftp server. Jason Clifford Definite Linux Systems http://definite.ukpost.com/
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