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In article <3C8FA3D7.C1A0C78D@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Chris Priest wrote:
> Which S3 card, Virge/DX or Trio3D, both 4MB PCI, is likely to be better
> (or perhaps least worse:) for Linux/XWindows 3.6/4.x? A short opinion
> would be appreciated.

Short opinion: Virge.

Slighly longer opinion: there's not a lot of difference between the two.
The Virge, IIRC, has faster 2D and `3D acceleration'. That sounds fun,
doesn't it. ISTR it means you'll get 21fps on Quake, instead of 20.

> Coming to think of it, would a 400MHz 2.2V K6-2 overclock and be stable
> to 456MHz (6x76) without burning out?

Possibly, but why bother for a 14% increase?

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13 Mar 2002 19:09:11 +0000, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
demon.tech.pc, yawatina tan reek esk Chris Priest
<chris@nospam.demon.co.uk> fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>Ok, so I'm building some computers from spare or recycled parts for my
>own use. 
>
>Which S3 card, Virge/DX or Trio3D, both 4MB PCI, is likely to be better
>(or perhaps least worse:) for Linux/XWindows 3.6/4.x? A short opinion
>would be appreciated.

I have used (and in fact, am using) a 4mb S3 ViRGE/DX card with my
333Mhz K6-2 machine, happily running SuSE 7.3, mostly in KDE at
1024x728.  I don't know about the Trio3D.  I would suspect little
difference, unless one has more VRAM than the other.

In message <3C8FA3D7.C1A0C78D@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Chris Priest
<chris@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>Which S3 card, Virge/DX or Trio3D, both 4MB PCI, is likely to be better
>(or perhaps least worse:) for Linux/XWindows 3.6/4.x? A short opinion
>would be appreciated.

On spec.  the Virge is the better card. As for Linux and stability in
XWindows - I don't know. Both have been around long enough to be well
and truly sorted

>This card will be on an ASUS TX97LE with K6-2 417MHz (5.5x76MHz) 38MHz
>PCI speed.

>Coming to think of it, would a 400MHz 2.2V K6-2 overclock and be stable
>to 456MHz (6x76) without burning out? The 2.4v K6-III/400 previously
>there wouldn't boot at 456.

I don't know. My opinion of overclocking is do it, but don't push it too
far.
-- 
Tony

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:09:11 +0000, Chris Priest wrote:

> Ok, so I'm building some computers from spare or recycled parts for my
> own use.
> 
> Which S3 card, Virge/DX or Trio3D, both 4MB PCI, is likely to be better
> (or perhaps least worse:) for Linux/XWindows 3.6/4.x? A short opinion
> would be appreciated.

Trio3D is a cheap crappy card. There is no accel in X (at least up to
4.0). In short: Avoid!

Alistair.

PS. I have recycled many bits of hardware, and have built half-a-dozen
second-generation computers from my cast-offs for friends. The Trio3D is
one of the few bits that that I have had that are not _very_ old that I
have found to be of so little use, I actually threw in the bin!

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Tony Wright wrote:
> 
> In message <3C8FA3D7.C1A0C78D@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Chris Priest
> <chris@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
> 
> >Which S3 card, Virge/DX or Trio3D, both 4MB PCI, is likely to be better
> >(or perhaps least worse:) for Linux/XWindows 3.6/4.x? A short opinion
> >would be appreciated.
> 
> On spec.  the Virge is the better card. As for Linux and stability in
> XWindows - I don't know. Both have been around long enough to be well
> and truly sorted
> 
> >This card will be on an ASUS TX97LE with K6-2 417MHz (5.5x76MHz) 38MHz
> >PCI speed.
> 
> >Coming to think of it, would a 400MHz 2.2V K6-2 overclock and be stable
> >to 456MHz (6x76) without burning out? The 2.4v K6-III/400 previously
> >there wouldn't boot at 456.
> 
> I don't know. My opinion of overclocking is do it, but don't push it too
> far.

3-0 for the Virge/DX then. Thanks to all for the replies.

Chris.

Chris Priest wrote:

> Ok, so I'm building some computers from spare or recycled parts for my
> own use.
> 
> Which S3 card, Virge/DX or Trio3D, both 4MB PCI, is likely to be better
> (or perhaps least worse:) for Linux/XWindows 3.6/4.x? A short opinion
> would be appreciated.
> 
> This card will be on an ASUS TX97LE with K6-2 417MHz (5.5x76MHz) 38MHz
> PCI speed.
> 
> Coming to think of it, would a 400MHz 2.2V K6-2 overclock and be stable
> to 456MHz (6x76) without burning out? The 2.4v K6-III/400 previously
> there wouldn't boot at 456.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris.

An S3virge DX does odd things for me under X 4.1.0 and 4.2.0.
Ctrl+alt+Fkey switching to a terminal does corrupted display.
Using 3.3.6 sorted it out.

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