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Started by Andy Mabbett
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:07
Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:07
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:07
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In the near future, I hope to upgrade this machine from Win 98SE to Win
2k; is there a site or FAQ which will give me an overview of the
differences?
Are there likely to be any software or hardware incompatibility issues,
and where might these be documented?
I'd like to install Win 2k on a separate partition - were can I learn
about partitioning under that OS?
--
Andy Mabbett
"May contain traces of nuts or seeds."
(label on a packet of popcorn)
Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: Keith Willshaw
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:06
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 08:06
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"Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message news:ch7cIfA6wzN9EwUw@pigsonthewing.org.uk... > In the near future, I hope to upgrade this machine from Win 98SE to Win > 2k; is there a site or FAQ which will give me an overview of the > differences? > Win2k is basically Windows NT5.0 , as such its more stable but may not run some older DOS programs , especially those which make calls direct to hardware. http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/default.asp > Are there likely to be any software or hardware incompatibility issues, > and where might these be documented? > No you should be fine but if in doubt take a look at the hardware compatibility list http://www.microsoft.com/hcl/default.asp http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8822 > I'd like to install Win 2k on a separate partition - were can I learn > about partitioning under that OS? > -- You have two choices FAT and NTFS, FAT32 is not supported Personally I'd recommend NOT upgrading on top of WIn 98 but reformatting the drive and reinstalling fromscratch. You'll have much less problem long term that way. You may also want to consider going straight to XP which is really Windows NT 5.1 Keith
Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: jasee
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:13
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:13
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Willshaw" <keith_willshaw@no-spam.compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.win95,demon.tech.pc
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
>
> "Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:ch7cIfA6wzN9EwUw@pigsonthewing.org.uk...
> > In the near future, I hope to upgrade this machine from Win 98SE to Win
> > 2k; is there a site or FAQ which will give me an overview of the
> > differences?
> >
>
> Win2k is basically Windows NT5.0 , as such its more stable
> but may not run some older DOS programs , especially
> those which make calls direct to hardware.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/default.asp
>
> > Are there likely to be any software or hardware incompatibility issues,
> > and where might these be documented?
You can look on the cd for hcl.txt. also Pro1.txt. and Pro2.txt
You can run setup just to check for basic compatability issues (only without
installing) using winn32 /checkupgradeonly
> >
>
> No you should be fine but if in doubt take a look at the
> hardware compatibility list
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/hcl/default.asp
> http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8822
>
> > I'd like to install Win 2k on a separate partition - were can I learn
> > about partitioning under that OS?
> > --
>
> You have two choices FAT and NTFS, FAT32 is
^^^^^^^^^^
> not supported
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Pardon! W2K and above support (recognise Fat32) (NT4 and below didn't/don't)
>
> Personally I'd recommend NOT upgrading on top of WIn 98
> but reformatting the drive and reinstalling fromscratch.
> You'll have much less problem long term that way.
Personally, I'd suggest dual booting to separate partitions would be my
recommendation if you've a program to shrink the existing big partition, if
thats what you've got. (like partition magic)
>
> You may also want to consider going straight to XP
> which is really Windows NT 5.1
That may be a step too far <g>
Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: Keith Willshaw
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:44
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:44
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"jasee" <jasee@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:ah939k$ife$1@helle.btinternet.com... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Willshaw" <keith_willshaw@no-spam.compuserve.com> > Newsgroups: uk.comp.os.win95,demon.tech.pc > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: Upgrading to Win 2K > > > > > > "Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message > > news:ch7cIfA6wzN9EwUw@pigsonthewing.org.uk... > > > In the near future, I hope to upgrade this machine from Win 98SE to Win > > > 2k; is there a site or FAQ which will give me an overview of the > > > differences? > > > > > > > Win2k is basically Windows NT5.0 , as such its more stable > > but may not run some older DOS programs , especially > > those which make calls direct to hardware. > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/default.asp > > > > > Are there likely to be any software or hardware incompatibility issues, > > > and where might these be documented? > > You can look on the cd for hcl.txt. also Pro1.txt. and Pro2.txt > > You can run setup just to check for basic compatability issues (only without > installing) using winn32 /checkupgradeonly > > > > > > > No you should be fine but if in doubt take a look at the > > hardware compatibility list > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/hcl/default.asp > > http://www.winnetmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8822 > > > > > I'd like to install Win 2k on a separate partition - were can I learn > > > about partitioning under that OS? > > > -- > > > > You have two choices FAT and NTFS, FAT32 is > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > not supported > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Pardon! W2K and above support (recognise Fat32) (NT4 and below didn't/don't) > Sorry I should have said 'fully supported' Windows 2000 cant handle FAT 32 partitions larger than 32 Gb or files larger than 4 Gb and it doesnt support domains or the security functions available under NTFS > > > > > Personally I'd recommend NOT upgrading on top of WIn 98 > > but reformatting the drive and reinstalling fromscratch. > > You'll have much less problem long term that way. > > Personally, I'd suggest dual booting to separate partitions would be my > recommendation if you've a program to shrink the existing big partition, if > thats what you've got. (like partition magic) > > > > > You may also want to consider going straight to XP > > which is really Windows NT 5.1 > > That may be a step too far <g> > Actually I have been running XP since December and its been very stable and I'm very pleased with it. Keith
Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: jasee
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:19
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 15:19
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"Keith Willshaw" <keith_willshaw@no-spam.compuserve.com> wrote in message news:1027086230.3896.0.nnrp-10.3e31c872@news.demon.co.uk... > > "jasee" <jasee@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:ah939k$ife$1@helle.btinternet.com... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith Willshaw" <keith_willshaw@no-spam.compuserve.com> > > > > > > "Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message > > > news:ch7cIfA6wzN9EwUw@pigsonthewing.org.uk... > > > > > > > I'd like to install Win 2k on a separate partition - were can I learn > > > > about partitioning under that OS? > > > > -- > > > > > > You have two choices FAT and NTFS, FAT32 is > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > > not supported > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > Pardon! W2K and above support (recognise Fat32) (NT4 and below > didn't/don't) > > > > Sorry I should have said 'fully supported' > > Windows 2000 cant handle FAT 32 partitions larger than 32 Gb or > files larger than 4 Gb and it doesnt support domains or the > security functions available under NTFS I must admit I didn't realise W2K didn't support Fat32 partitions larger than 32gigs, I don't understand what you mean by 'support for domains', though obviously file/folder permissions can be additionally set on NTFS partitions. Compression is only supported on NTFS volumes, not on Fat32 (interestingly enough) > > > > > > > > > Personally I'd recommend NOT upgrading on top of WIn 98 > > > but reformatting the drive and reinstalling fromscratch. > > > You'll have much less problem long term that way. > > > > Personally, I'd suggest dual booting to separate partitions would be my > > recommendation if you've a program to shrink the existing big partition, > if > > thats what you've got. (like partition magic) > > > > > > > > You may also want to consider going straight to XP > > > which is really Windows NT 5.1 > > > > That may be a step too far <g> > > > > Actually I have been running XP since December > and its been very stable and I'm very pleased with it. Even now, there are at least a dozen security patches for XP (and many more others) until it''s got a few service packs under its belt, I for one wouldn't consider the tellytubby version of W2K very seriously.
Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:36
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:36
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In message <ah939k$ife$1@helle.btinternet.com>, jasee
<jasee@btinternet.com> writes
>> Personally I'd recommend NOT upgrading on top of WIn 98
>> but reformatting the drive and reinstalling fromscratch.
>> You'll have much less problem long term that way.
>
>Personally, I'd suggest dual booting to separate partitions would be my
>recommendation if you've a program to shrink the existing big
>partition, if thats what you've got. (like partition magic)
What are the advantages of the latter?
--
Andy Mabbett
"May contain traces of nuts or seeds."
(label on a packet of popcorn)
Re: Upgrading to Win 2K
Author: jasee
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:49
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:49
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"Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote in message news:UW$uF+EmwFO9Ewul@pigsonthewing.org.uk... > In message <ah939k$ife$1@helle.btinternet.com>, jasee > <jasee@btinternet.com> writes > >> Personally I'd recommend NOT upgrading on top of WIn 98 > >> but reformatting the drive and reinstalling fromscratch. > >> You'll have much less problem long term that way. > > > >Personally, I'd suggest dual booting to separate partitions would be my > >recommendation if you've a program to shrink the existing big > >partition, if thats what you've got. (like partition magic) > > What are the advantages of the latter? Well you (obviously) retain all the settings, programs you've got with W98, and you've got a totally independent new installation of W2K which you can switch to at start up if you want to. You will probably need to install applications again (so you've actually got two of them on the same hard disk) but you should be able to share data files. Disks are so big nowadays that the space occupied by having two sets of each program doesn't usually matter much. If (for some reason) W98 really screws up you should always be able to start W2K and maybe check the W98 partition for damaged files etc. The main difficulty is if your disk is one big partition, only a program like Partition magic can shrink a partition to give you free space (assuming you've got quite a bit of free space in your existing partition) so W2K can create a new partition. However, Partition Magic 6 is now going for virtually nothing on Ebay and is capable of resizing Fat32 partitions (though it won't resize W2K NTFS partitions). When you've fully converted everything to W2K, and feel confident in using that, you can eliminate everything but a few root files from the W98 partition and boot directly to W2K and use the W98 partition for data storage etc.
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