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Started by Andy Mabbett
Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:43
Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:43
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:43
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I have recently been experiencing problems with my machine locking up,
and/ or crashing, after slowing down to a crawl.
I suspect memory leakage. I have taken a snapshot of the system as it
was the last time things started to fail (Turnpike Offline crashed), and
placed it at:
http://www.pigsonthewing.org.uk/taskinfo.jpg (144Kb)
I would be grateful if someone could tell me what's going on, and wrong,
or offer other assistance.
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:24
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:24
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In article <n$Ay$NBYfNO7EwT4@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, Andy Mabbett
<andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> writes
>I have taken a snapshot of the system as it
>was the last time things started to fail (Turnpike Offline crashed)
...and was then restarted.
Incidentally, if I close all live applications, then do a restart, I
often get a message to say that "WRQNAM" cannot be closed. What is that,
and why own; it close?
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: 'Dungeon' Dave
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:05
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:05
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.. and it came to pass that Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> uttered forth: >In article <n$Ay$NBYfNO7EwT4@pigsonthewing.org.uk>, Andy Mabbett ><andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> writes >>I have taken a snapshot of the system as it >>was the last time things started to fail (Turnpike Offline crashed) > >...and was then restarted. > >Incidentally, if I close all live applications, then do a restart, I >often get a message to say that "WRQNAM" cannot be closed. What is >that, >and why own; it close? Are you using AtGuard at all? This sounds like one of their files. -- "Dungeon" Dave, in anti-harvest mode... From: sam@efront.com From: eckel@efront.com From: bryant@efront.com
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Mike Tomlinson
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:07
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:07
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:43:36 +0100, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >I have recently been experiencing problems with my machine locking up, >and/ or crashing, after slowing down to a crawl. Looking at your snapshot, your user heap is at 22%, which is too low. (Windows 9x has 64k limits on the GDI heap and user heap.) As to how to find out what's causing this, it's a matter of trial and error. Run Resource Meter - it's a little app which comes with windows. It shows the state of the 3 heaps in the system tray, and see if running any particular application causes your user heap to drop dramatically. Double clicking on it produces a larger display. I also see you're running both ZoneAlarm and AtGuard - is this really a good idea?
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Richard Howlett
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:42
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:42
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Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I have recently been experiencing problems with my machine locking up, > and/ or crashing, after slowing down to a crawl. > > I suspect memory leakage. I have taken a snapshot of the system as it > was the last time things started to fail (Turnpike Offline crashed), and > placed it at: > > http://www.pigsonthewing.org.uk/taskinfo.jpg (144Kb) > > I would be grateful if someone could tell me what's going on, and wrong, > or offer other assistance. Seti@Home ?? I ran the Seti@Home program for a while but found it caused lockups/freezes so I ditched it. That was however with the early versions - I ran it right from the start for just over a year until I got fed up with my machine locking up! The later versions may be better but I suggest trying the machine without Seti@Home running for a while. See if it makes a difference. -- Richard Howlett mailto:richard@howie.org.uk
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:18
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:18
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In article <WCXQMLCScQO7Ewmy@tombstones.org.uk>, 'Dungeon' Dave
<Dungeon@SpamNot.Here> writes
>>Incidentally, if I close all live applications, then do a restart, I
>>often get a message to say that "WRQNAM" cannot be closed. What is
>>that,
>>and why own; it close?
>
>Are you using AtGuard at all? This sounds like one of their files.
Yes. Any idea why it behaves like that?
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:20
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:20
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In article <3b39a05f.430490157@news.livjm.ac.uk>, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> writes
>>I have recently been experiencing problems with my machine locking up,
>>and/ or crashing, after slowing down to a crawl.
>
>Looking at your snapshot, your user heap is at 22%, which is too
>low. (Windows 9x has 64k limits on the GDI heap and user heap.)
What's a heap?
>As to how to find out what's causing this, it's a matter of trial
>and error.
>
>Run Resource Meter - it's a little app which comes with windows.
Where will I find it/ what's the app file called?
>I also see you're running both ZoneAlarm and AtGuard - is this
>really a good idea?
I've seen several people say it is; and no one- leastways, no one worth
listening to - say otherwise.
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:22
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:22
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In article <3B3A3733.13E72F27@nospam.demon.co.uk>, Richard Howlett
<richard@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>> I would be grateful if someone could tell me what's going on, and wrong,
>> or offer other assistance.
>
>Seti@Home ??
>
>I ran the Seti@Home program for a while but found it caused lockups/freezes
>so I ditched it.
I've been running it for some time, and have only had the problems
relatively recently; I don't think there's a direct connection.
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:00
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:00
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In article <9hdkca$csb9a$1@ID-55970.news.dfncis.de>, William Allen
<mail@mayfly13.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>> >Run Resource Meter
>With Windows CD-ROM in drive:
[...]
Thank you.
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Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: ian
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:46
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:46
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:22:04 +0100, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: >I've been running it for some time, and have only had the problems >relatively recently; I don't think there's a direct connection. You could try the MemTurbo (30 day trial) from http://www.memturbo.com/ This little prog claims (and seems to) free up memory quite well. You can set it to kick in when things get too low. Also MS Technet had some patches for win95 memory leaks, associated with windows sockets http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q141/2/11.asp?FR=0 http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q148/3/36.asp are two that I know of. There may well be others for win98 etc?. Ian
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 12:11
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 12:11
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In article <9p2ujtcmhf5jebf35tnf3sclv2d4s9a41g@4ax.com>, ian
<cinquent50@hotmail.com> writes
>You could try the MemTurbo (30 day trial) from
>http://www.memturbo.com/
>This little prog claims (and seems to) free up memory quite well. You
>can set it to kick in when things get too low.
I've used FreeMem Standard 4.3 <http://www.meikel.com/freemem> (which is
freeware) before, but been told that such tools don't really work. Do
they? How?
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
Re: Out of Memory/ Help with TaskInfo
Author: Andy Mabbett
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 22:50
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 22:50
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In article <WCXQMLCScQO7Ewmy@tombstones.org.uk>, 'Dungeon' Dave
<Dungeon@SpamNot.Here> writes
>>
>>Incidentally, if I close all live applications, then do a restart, I
>>often get a message to say that "WRQNAM" cannot be closed. What is
>>that,
>>and why own; it close?
>
>Are you using AtGuard at all? This sounds like one of their files.
I have removed Zone Alarm, but still get the "WRQNAM" error when I try
to do a shutdown or restart.
--
Andy Mabbett
A 1998 survey of 48 restaurants' chicken tikka masalas
found that the only common ingredient was chicken.
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