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Andy Mabbett wrote:
> 
> Is there a web site where I can download the 15Mb of files without using
> the update application, so I can do it using a different, leased line,
> account, and save my phone bill? What if I had two or more machines I
> wanted to update?

Those updater programs are really annoying. Quicktime 4 does it, but
with that I found that after downloading everything, before it installs
you search you hard disk for a 7 meg file, and that is the downloaded
data. Next time you need to install QT4, you just run the installer
program in the same dir as the quicktime data cache.

Sorry I havent answered you question, I was just having a small rant :)

Oh yeh, the leased line are good. I am at uni, so any file more than a
few meg get done in 20 secs, and brought home on my zip drive :) And
costs nothing!
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
> 
[...]
> What I want to know is, can I simply upgrade using a version of ie5 for
> a magazine cover disc? How will I know I have the latest version?
> 
I'd go the cover-disc way, now.  PC+ has it, and probably some of the
cheaper mags as well.

> Is there a web site where I can download the 15Mb of files without using
> the update application, so I can do it using a different, leased line,
> account, and save my phone bill? What if I had two or more machines I
> wanted to update?
> 
Erm, possibly/probably someone will have stuck up a page with links to all
the necessary files.  If not, find an ftp mirror site - which will list all
the files.

> I don't want to start another MS is shite/ brilliant war, but what
> possible advantages are there for them in steering us towards working in
> this way?
> 
Well, aren't Micro$oft and NTL buddies now?
</conspiracy theory>

Mark..

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In article <37AEED26.655212D1@york.ac.uk>, Mark Tyndall
<mrt102@york.ac.uk> writes
>I'd go the cover-disc way, now. 

And simply do an install over my existing ie5? Will that work, and
preserve all my settings?


How will I know I've got the latest version?
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Andy Mabbett
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         With cattle trucks, lying in wait, for the next time"
                                Roger Waters, 1982

Andy Mabbett wrote:
> 
> In article <37AEED26.655212D1@york.ac.uk>, Mark Tyndall
> <mrt102@york.ac.uk> writes
> >I'd go the cover-disc way, now.
> 
> And simply do an install over my existing ie5? Will that work, and
> preserve all my settings?
> 
It should do.  All the IE upgrades (versions 3-5) I've done have done so
far.

> How will I know I've got the latest version?

Well, an earlier version won't install over a later version, so you'll not
go backwards.  But _latest_?  Make a permanent copy of the version you
intend to use (eg burn a CD).  Wait two days, maximum.  A later version
_will_ appear.

Mark..

-- 
Clean, optimized, thoughtfully written code can really set an
application apart from its peers. (Actually, a marketing juggernaut and
a virtual monopoly can also set an application apart from its peers.)

Andy Mabbett (andy@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk) wrote:
[]
: Why can't I simply download a "patch" which will do the necessary
: updates - and what are these updates?
[]
Few software companies like the "patch" update process these days; it isn't
just Microsoft (Turnpike, a British company [actually part of Demon, but
independent of it] insist on a complete download too).

One reason sometimes given is that a wide number of patches are needed to
cover various different versions that might be out there. (I don't buy this as
one could always just use lots of incremental patches, doing a complete
downoad if one got so far behind that the total size of the patches exceeded
that of a download, but whatever.)
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On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:25:38 +0100, Andy Mabbett
<andy@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk> wrote a message in uk.comp.os.win95
that I am replying to:

>Short of running windows update every week or so, is there a way to be
>kept up- to- date with such changes (for Windows and ie5)? Perhaps a
>mailing list, or an 'announce' newsgroup?
the only ones actually needed are at

http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/downloads/corporate.asp

all the rest are fluff

robbie
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In article <P5z7PGAiNZr3EwPU@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk>, 
andy@pigsonthewing.demon.co.uk says...

> What I want to know is, can I simply upgrade using a version of ie5 for
> a magazine cover disc? How will I know I have the latest version?

You could get hold of the IE5 admin kit, its free from the MS site.
Then you can tailor IE5 to your own specs.
It has a version checker built in too.

My copy of the IE5 installation has a file called Ie5sites.dat
this contains a url list of the IE5 mirrors. One is Demon and there are 
3 others in the UK....

Try
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie5/download/rtw/x86/ie5sites.dat

ftp.cix.co.uk/mirrors/tucows.com/DOWNLOAD/win32/ie5sites.dat
seems to have a lot.

One way is to use one of those web page updated auto-informer sites.
Tie in the ie5 cab file into it from your fav. http site and any time 
the cab file time stamp is changed you are emailed?

Then download the cab into your active setup directory, which is in your 
root and overwrite it?

Your registry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active 
Setup\InstallInfo
contains where it looks for the updated cabs.
You could change this to point to a folder on your harddrive containing 
the cabs?

-- 
Stuart Halliday
Acorn Cybervillage
http://acorn.cybervillage.co.uk/